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Old 05-21-2012, 06:56 PM
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Hitters are (normally) faders?
Swingers are (normally) drawers?

I am supposed to be a swinger, but I fade/slice more often than not.
Maybe there is some switting going on? (Whatever that may be..)
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:03 AM
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Air, tell us about our set-up and what Lynn had you work on. Be specific. Mid-Body Hands, Central Anchor, RFT, MacDonald Right -left, Drag the club-head up to Top or to End, Open Stance, etc. Specifics in = Specifics out!
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:15 AM
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Air, tell us about our set-up and what Lynn had you work on. Be specific. Mid-Body Hands, Central Anchor, RFT, MacDonald Right -left, Drag the club-head up to Top or to End, Open Stance, etc. Specifics in = Specifics out!
I'll have to think deep and hard to be able to do this task. I'll give it a try - hope it doesn't give me a headache. I'll get back to it later today. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:03 PM
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These were my notes after my first trip to Cuscowilla:
-I had to leave my belief of being a hitter - and that meant that the adjusted address position has come in instead of impact fix at address.

-There was a lot of aiming with sticks at the baseline (the magic right forearm and flying wedges?)
-We did some Taly training. Let the arms and hands do the work, not the wrists.
-Do not waggle over the ball with the wrists only - waggle both flying wedges just like when training with the Taly.
-Then learning the finish. The arrow thru the ears (shaft) must be at right angles to the baseline, not pointing backwards to the right of it.
-A stronger 3 knuckles grip.
-Learning to have my left shoulder pointing more to the right at set up.
-In my case it's advisable to have a somewhat closed stance to the baseline.
-High hands, but avoiding to have the left wrist uncocked at address.
-Don't just do this with the longer clubs, but give yourself space also on the shorter shots with a wedge.
-The right arm bent with a limber right elbow - not sticking out too much.
-Learn to drag the wet mop in both directions, so that the takeaway also has its lag in the mark time rhythm of the MacDonald exercises/brush- brush technique.
-At impact let the shoulders be square to the target line instead of moving to the left. Right shoulder lower than the left.
-Then the tricky part for me: The rolling of the left arm in the downswing/thru stroke.
-The importance of the last 3 fingers of the left hand and downtoning the right index finger.
-A better position at the top.
-The down stroke waggle
-A lot of club throwing.(real throwing of clubs on to the range - I'm pretty good at it)
-How to start down.
-Learning to kick in the right knee in the downstroke/thru stroke to get the ball in a better path and to get the weight a lot more into my left side than I have been doing.This is especially important for me because I had problems performing the left hip bump.
-A somewhat more rounded backstroke.
-Trying to avoid hitting straight down the target line but have a feeling of going a little accross it , but just the opposite way that I had always done (avoid OTT, out-to-in)
-Then extensor action and a lot training: shot after shot with different clubs - a lot of drives. And corrections and comments when I didn't get it right and trying to do it more and more correctly.
-Keep the head stationary. Don't let it be drawn to the right when doing extensor action.
-With the driver the ball is more forward than I was used to. Peg the ball up so that half the ball is over the head of the driver on the ground.
-Also chipping and pitching. The short bread and butter shot, cut shots, knock down shots, bunker shots, putting.
-If the divots are too deep - move the ball more forward in the stance.
-And a geometrical slideshow and some practical shot making on the course.

To mention some of the things I needed to work on.

....

I might add:
I suppose I'm using a RFT with a little drag to start with + EA.
I'm still having problems with OTT, so the startdown waggles need more work.
Probably not enough hip slide and axis tilt.
I'm not sure I have enough DOWN (uncocking of the LW) starting the followthru.
I don't always feel that I'm rolling the LW enough. Sometimes it feels like I'm blocking the ball.
I now stand closed to the target line, but try to be parallel to the plane- and delivery line in order to manipulate the shot so it goes straight instead of starting left and curving back to the right (slice).
Recently I have seen the importance of a complete finish - arrow thru the ears. It gives a lot better drives than when I just give it a mighty heave and leave it at that.

I fear that Plane and Tracing are things that I should have more focus on...

Sorry I can't sum this up in a more TGM like manner.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:03 PM
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:05 PM
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:06 PM
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:08 PM
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:02 PM
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These were my notes after my first trip to Cuscowilla:
-I had to leave my belief of being a hitter - and that meant that the adjusted address position has come in instead of impact fix at address.

-There was a lot of aiming with sticks at the baseline (the magic right forearm and flying wedges?)
-We did some Taly training. Let the arms and hands do the work, not the wrists.
-Do not waggle over the ball with the wrists only - waggle both flying wedges just like when training with the Taly.
-Then learning the finish. The arrow thru the ears (shaft) must be at right angles to the baseline, not pointing backwards to the right of it.
-A stronger 3 knuckles grip.
-Learning to have my left shoulder pointing more to the right at set up.
-In my case it's advisable to have a somewhat closed stance to the baseline.
-High hands, but avoiding to have the left wrist uncocked at address.
-Don't just do this with the longer clubs, but give yourself space also on the shorter shots with a wedge.
-The right arm bent with a limber right elbow - not sticking out too much.
-Learn to drag the wet mop in both directions, so that the takeaway also has its lag in the mark time rhythm of the MacDonald exercises/brush- brush technique.
-At impact let the shoulders be square to the target line instead of moving to the left. Right shoulder lower than the left.
-Then the tricky part for me: The rolling of the left arm in the downswing/thru stroke.
-The importance of the last 3 fingers of the left hand and downtoning the right index finger.
-A better position at the top.
-The down stroke waggle
-A lot of club throwing.(real throwing of clubs on to the range - I'm pretty good at it)
-How to start down.
-Learning to kick in the right knee in the downstroke/thru stroke to get the ball in a better path and to get the weight a lot more into my left side than I have been doing.This is especially important for me because I had problems performing the left hip bump.
-A somewhat more rounded backstroke.
-Trying to avoid hitting straight down the target line but have a feeling of going a little accross it , but just the opposite way that I had always done (avoid OTT, out-to-in)
-Then extensor action and a lot training: shot after shot with different clubs - a lot of drives. And corrections and comments when I didn't get it right and trying to do it more and more correctly.
-Keep the head stationary. Don't let it be drawn to the right when doing extensor action.
-With the driver the ball is more forward than I was used to. Peg the ball up so that half the ball is over the head of the driver on the ground.
-Also chipping and pitching. The short bread and butter shot, cut shots, knock down shots, bunker shots, putting.
-If the divots are too deep - move the ball more forward in the stance.
-And a geometrical slideshow and some practical shot making on the course.

To mention some of the things I needed to work on.

....

I might add:
I suppose I'm using a RFT with a little drag to start with + EA.
I'm still having problems with OTT, so the startdown waggles need more work.
Probably not enough hip slide and axis tilt.
I'm not sure I have enough DOWN (uncocking of the LW) starting the followthru.
I don't always feel that I'm rolling the LW enough. Sometimes it feels like I'm blocking the ball.
I now stand closed to the target line, but try to be parallel to the plane- and delivery line in order to manipulate the shot so it goes straight instead of starting left and curving back to the right (slice).
Recently I have seen the importance of a complete finish - arrow thru the ears. It gives a lot better drives than when I just give it a mighty heave and leave it at that.

I fear that Plane and Tracing are things that I should have more focus on...

Sorry I can't sum this up in a more TGM like manner.


Air, are your wrists "Flat" (left), and "bent" (right) consistently through all your chips and pitches. Often times when I Swing, I do not Forward Swivel, but bend my left wrist. I suggest forming your wedges and seeing if you can hit through the bag several times keeping your ball with a slight fade or draw or straight. Take your club to Acquired Motion after warming up and find the wobble.

You really must prepare that Forward Swivel by feeling like your front elbow is glued to your side. As you do it correctly, your feeling will become more relaxed, as if there is a wall preventing your head and body from moving forward with anything except planting your left heel. It is so weird to make a slight step and see the club zooming around your stationary head and crushing the ball as a Swinger. Remember the game "Freeze Tag?" I drag my club to the Top and freeze and then plant my left heel and the club explodes. I do it with HHinge tracing the Baseline of the plane and AHinge covering the club-head path. Club flies!

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Old 05-22-2012, 04:41 PM
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Air, are your wrists "Flat" (left), and "bent" (right) consistently through all your chips and pitches. Often times when I Swing, I do not Forward Swivel, but bend my left wrist. I suggest forming your wedges and seeing if you can hit through the bag several times keeping your ball with a slight fade or draw or straight. Take your club to Acquired Motion after warming up and find the wobble.

You really must prepare that Forward Swivel by feeling like your front elbow is glued to your side. As you do it correctly, your feeling will become more relaxed, as if there is a wall preventing your head and body from moving forward with anything except planting your left heel. It is so weird to make a slight step and see the club zooming around your stationary head and crushing the ball as a Swinger. Remember the game "Freeze Tag?" I drag my club to the Top and freeze and then plant my left heel and the club explodes. I do it with HHinge tracing the Baseline of the plane and AHinge covering the club-head path. Club flies!

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You have been here longer than me and know a lot more than I do - and have made greater achievements. So I always listen to what you have to say and the value of the information you are willing to give.

As far as I can tell I now have a flat(ish) LW and the corresponding BRW. Hope so at least.

The forward swivel is that the same as the rolling of the left/wrist? As far as I have gathered (for a swinger) the uncocking karate / flail move happens before the rolling of the left hand/wrist. Hitters on the other side do this simultaneously.
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