left wrist cock vs right wrist

[MizunoJoe]

Joe,

I know that you are not a fan of the Hands Controlled Pivot and the frozen Level Right Wrist. I have a great respect for your knowledge and opinions.

How do you teach a player to have more Lag? What type of drills concepts etc?

Thanks man!

B

12 piece,

How many can passively aim the hands? I believe that to put the mind in the hands of MOST players will cause the hands to move the hands, rather than the pivot alone moving them. And in a pure Swing, nothing should be frozen, including the right wrist.

For Hitting PCH is a great idea - aim and thrust PPs #1 and #3.

Lag in a Swing is obtained by the passive hands/arms being drug through impact by rotation. In the link below, notice how open his shoulders are just past impact.

http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzell.../bartlett3.mov

Notice in the following that his right wrist is cocked, which is also evident in the first link.

http://homepage.mac.com/brianmanzell.../bartlett4.mov

I don't think he is passively aiming his hands, but, if so, my hat is off to him!

[tongzilla]

And, yes, more precision is possible, but at the expense of constraints on the PHYSICS for the most powerful pure Swing.

The OILY-WRISTED freeswingers you mentioned don't use a FROZEN level right wrist.

Please tell me more!

In what way will the Non-Level Right Wrist help promote CF?

What do you think of the concept that the Right Wrist is Frozen in its Level condition but still "oily wristed". For example, if your right wrist was in a cast, it must maintain its alignment, but at the same time the wrist in the cast can remain very supple.

All things being equal, do you think a Cocked Right Wrist gets more distance?

Thanks.

[MizunoJoe]

Please tell me more!

In what way will the Non-Level Right Wrist help promote CF?

What do you think of the concept that the Right Wrist is Frozen in its Level condition but still "oily wristed". For example, if your right wrist was in a cast, it must maintain its alignment, but at the same time the wrist in the cast can remain very supple.

All things being equal, do you think a Cocked Right Wrist gets more distance?

Thanks.

A non-frozen right wrist will promote a free flowing pure swing with natural cocking of both wrists which will fully utilize CF. Crank it up, let the air out of the arms, and unwind hard.

Casts aside, are you seriously asking if the right wrist can be frozen AND oily/supple at the same time?

In John Daly's swing for example, the cocked right wrist provides more total wrist cock and greater clubhead travel distance, which translates to more total clubhead lag, which leads to greater distance.

[tongzilla]

Casts aside, are you seriously asking if the right wrist can be frozen AND oily/supple at the same time?

Yes -- Frozen as in Level and Bent Right Wrist.

[6bmike]

The left wrist can be oily- the right bent to flatten dimples. It works- really.

btw: here are two links to pictures that show Daly with an UNCOCKED right wrist at the top. With that elbow (like Jack's) sticking out- he couldn't cock the right. In fact the elbow looks that way because the right hand is BENT LEVEL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/178500...01_daly152.jpg

http://www.golfpiste.fi/gallery/Ihmi...daly_pieni.jpg

with a cigarette in that one.

[archie swivel]

Since its easier to go to the far ends of a spectrum, rather than gaging the degree in between the two ends, is it ok to go with MAXIMUM right wrist bend or can you have too much right wrist bend? Same with left wrist cock?

[archie swivel]

So it is acceptable to establish maximum right wrist bend at impact fix?

[Yoda]

So it is acceptable to establish maximum right wrist bend at impact fix?

The Right Wrist Bend you have at Fix is the Right Wrist Bend you have at Top.

You are the artist.

The Golfing Machine® provides the palet of colors.

Paint wisely.

[birdie_man]

There's one to add to "the top Yoda quotes of all time."

[MizunoJoe]

The left wrist can be oily- the right bent to flatten dimples. It works- really.

btw: here are two links to pictures that show Daly with an UNCOCKED right wrist at the top. With that elbow (like Jack's) sticking out- he couldn't cock the right. In fact the elbow looks that way because the right hand is BENT LEVEL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/178500...01_daly152.jpg

http://www.golfpiste.fi/gallery/Ihmi...daly_pieni.jpg

with a cigarette in that one.

You are seeing what you want to see! In both pics, the right wrist is obviously partially if not totally COCKED. Level means partially uncocked so that there is a straight line extending from the large thumb knuckle to along the top of the forearm. With the right arm in that position, were Daly's right wrist level, the club wouldn't even get to horizontal, but rather would point upward and out to the right.