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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 83508)

Yes it is about keeping the left arm straight.

But there is more to it than that.

For once; You set up a rigid structure with the right arm, one that firms up things and resists slowdown during release and ball contact.

You also use extencior action to extend the hands away from the swing center. This increases the leverage of the pivot. You get to do more work per degree of shoulder turn.

But my current favourite is this: Creating a good muscle tension in the back, right under the left shoulder blade and right above the hip. These are the muscles that pulls the left arm through. The extencior action creates good connection between the pivot and the hands that assures that what you invest in the shoulder turn will pay off through the hands.

I now create this tension around 7-8 o'clock in the back swing as I set my wrists and when I've got everything synced and working 96%, I have a very direct connection between my footwork and the hands (and actually the club).

Thanks. Good to know.:salut:

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 83489)

Let me try to formulate a question about the downswing/release thru impact, if I'm capable of it:

From the top there is a downstroke waggle which the pivot executes with the right-left, right-left rhythm. The bent right arm doesn't begin to straighten out yet. Further down there is a definite downward throw of the club (release trigger?) (for a swinger) (but not a throw away) by the left arm/hand. The throw is in part a uncocking of the LW and a roll/swivel of the left forearm. I guess this must be done while sustaining the lag? Is this quick throw down to the position and not thru the position at impact the same concept as to drag the wet mop - although a throw seems fast and the wet mop dragging seems slow? Furthermore it's not so easy to feel/get the throw to be vertical to the ground to avoid the horizontal motion of the FWL when the club is going forward anyway ...

Have I got the right idea about this - or not?
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Let's see if there are any more points to be considered?

A downward movement has a vertical aspect allthough the club doesn't go 90 degrees right down into the ground, I don't know what the degree can be - it will vary from club to club and what kind of shot is made, but it starts hitting the ball on its way down to low point 5-6 inches (or more?) in front of the ball - right down from the left shoulder - into the turf. Hence a divot.

The more emphasis there is to swing down like this by the uncocking of the LW, the greater the chance is to avoid flipping. One can't have a vertical and a horizontal movement at the same time, right?

One interesting aspect at impact is the move from the trigger release/downward throw/uncocking of the LW in a karate like on plane movement down to the ball and the suddenly make an abrupt roll of the LW (left forearm). It probably only takes place within the span of some 10 inches (?), but this is the place where the greatest speed is created, because the outside horse (the clubhead) moves 5 times faster (100 mph) than the inside horse (LW with its modest 20 mph) , but in the same RPM... in order to maintain the correct rhythm that is required...

:-? :-k :silenced:

Anybody want to comment this?

The arms and the club can be said to have the same RPM if you look at it in the "right" way. This has been discussed recently. But they really don't. At the top, the club is lagging around 90 degree behind the left arm. And at the end it is leadning with around 90 degree. In a good stroke most of the overtaking will happen close to impact. The cocking and uncocking of the left wrists "absorbs" a 180 degree difference if the recommended single action grip is used. And most of this is absorbed close to impact.

The single action grip - where the left hand is only allowed to do a vertical hinge is a key in monitoring and controlling the overtaking. A double action grip - where both hands are allowed to bend and arche and cock and uncock is physically very effective too, but it is too flexible to provide clubhead and clubface control.

If the club and the arms travelled at the same RPM, flipping would be a non-issue.

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 83522)

As usual I'll have to let this sink in. I prefer to look at the same RPM issue in the "right way" - just like a merry-go-round like Yoda is talking about. Makes sense that the clubhead travels faster than the LW, (fore)arm etc to impact. And that we want them in line from impact to followthrow. That's about all I'm capable of understanding - so far...
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You can only keep the right arm and the clubshaft at the same rpm if you zero accumulators #2 & #3. If you freeze accumulator #2 in a level position you can have a very even and gradual overtaking.

If you add some Accumulator #2 action to your stroke, things aren't so simple anymore. And that's why we need to manipulate CF, sustain lag pressure etc to prevent the overtaking before impact.

The full golf stroke is deemed to collapse sooner or later. But skilled players know how to keep it together until the ball is gone.

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 83525)

Skilled players...? Will all skilled players raise your hands ! :clap: :hello2: :dontknow: