In that respect - for a swinger a lagging takeaway ("swing-away") is always desirable - and not just for golfers with an arm injury?

"Exit" Plane. The Plane from Follow Through to Finish
 

Swinger's rope drill
 

Maximum Compression
 

How to Draw?
 

Not good at asking for help; but I really need help and advice
 

Layback
 

Standard Hip Turn / Slide Hip Turn
 

Zero Pivot, Zero Hip Turn, Zero Shoulder Turn
 

All the above is equally true for putting
 

Underground plane line
 

Change your Thinking
 

"Third Rail" topics
 

Proclamation
 

I have now come to the end of my copying in so far as trying to find "new" posts to copy.

My "system" was to take a look at all posts Yoda has made - beginning with the oldest one and work myself to the more recent ones. I have done that now, so there will not be more to be found that way.

I may still copy up things I'm interested reading again and again (instead of going back to find it in my thread where I first copied it), but most of the work is now done - so there we have it.

I'll still be working on my own things and will continue to ask questions, but the copying period is winding down from now.

So to "all my readers" - thanks, but not really good bye - just see you later perhaps..

A breath of fresh Air
 

Thanks Air!

As one who has been here since the forum's inception, I appreciate your efforts. You have unearthed many nuggets for the newer members to incubate and rekindled many wonderful memories for the more seasoned veterans :salut: .

The same from me as it was from him
 

As Drew said, Air.

Its been a pleasure being one of your readers.:salut:

Posts
 

AirAir, I have certainly enjoyed reading your posts.
I read evey one of them. Maybe you could continue
with YodaLuke. Thanks a lot.
Donn Kerby

Thanks to all
 

dkerby:
Most of the threads where Yoda's posts were found, are also copied. YodasLuke is already well represented, I believe.

I think I for the time being will limit it to his first post:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread72.html #4

Thanks Air ! :pray:

I'm sure that as make more baby steps in understanding the book I will come back to this thread as a reference.

Flying Wedges
 

I have been watching Dowels & Wedges
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3kaU...ture=endscreen
There's talk about the RFFW and how it comes together (with the LFFW?) 90 degrees. I don't understand where this 90 degrees is. The RW doesn't bend 90 degrees backwards does it? Where is this 90 degrees to be found? Yoda is holding two dowels parallel while talking about this (2:12), but what does that indicate? There is only one club. Where is the 90 degrees? Could someone explain this and its importance for me?

See 6-B-3-0-1 and 7-2 in TGM

That's cool that my "third rail" thread became the last in your series. In keeping with the season I reiterate that the topics heading that thread remain unchanged in my mind.

HB

I have to see how this works.
Standing up straight and chest high - does that mean that the plane of the RFFW is horizontal and the plane of the LFFW is vertical? That would be 90 degrees.

The Golfing Machine "Flying Wedges"
 

Yoda is to be found on YouTube with videos we don't see in the LBG videos. This one is very useful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3C1__L5usM

Id say yes ......assuming your left hand grip is not Turned. In the 10-2-D grip for instance the Plane of the Left Wrist Cock and the plane of the Right Wrist Bend would both be "horizontal" as you put it. Which has implications to Hand Action as the left hand is already turned to the Inclined Plane at Fix.

I have to see how this works.
Standing up straight and chest high - does that mean that the plane of the RFFW is horizontal and the plane of the LFFW is vertical? That would be 90 degrees.

The Right Hand is placed on the Club in its Vertical Condition, i.e., perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane. This alignment is mandatory for the ideal Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its 90 degree support of the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/n...wreply&p=89198

Ive changed my post above to read "horizontal" instead of vertical . My apologies.

Air, the implications of the Turned left wrist grip type to the 90 degree relationship of the flying wedges is something Ive never seen discussed so Im on out a limb perhaps . But if you read the description of the 10-2-D grip you'll be able to follow my logic. I dont have my book with me and cant provide a proper quote, but Homer says something about the two planes (left wrist cock and right hand bend) being similarly aligned.

In the book, Homer assumes a more "vertical" left hand grip , 10-2-B which would mandate the 90 degrees thing, yes.

Thanks,
I understand that the two different flying wedges have their own idenity and that they together give structure to how to swing the club. The only problem I had/have is to SEE this 90 degrees we are talking about. I see about 70 degrees, but maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way.

Ahh, ok. This will be slightly less than technically correct maybe but imagine a piece of tape or a line running up the AFT of the shaft (technically correct would have it from the sweetspot on the face to the #3 pp) and over the back of the right forearm. Imagine the line as being a straight line with the Right Forearm on the same plane as the piece of tape on the aft of the shaft. This line represents the Plane of the Right Hand bend .... the RFFW. Horizontal in your terms.

Now, from Fix (not adjusted address) imagine a line or piece of tape or whatever running up the top of the shaft (as you look down at it from address) and up the entire left arm . Again a straight line and representing the plane of the Left Wrist Cock. A purely Vertical Hand Motion (per ..dont have my book with me right now, Hand Motions ? ).

With a 10-2-B grip these two planes are 90 degrees to each other. Top and Aft , vertical and horizontal in your terms. Dont look at the back of your left hand , which will be slightly turned as is natural (take a look at it when its hanging by your side when standing.... its turned slightly along with the elbow and forearm too ... aligned to your mouth). This is slightly turned Left Hand is "Flat , Level and VERTICAL" definitionally . THE LEFT HAND IS NOT LITERALLY VERTICAL BUT IT IS "GEOMETRICALLY" VERTICAL in this instance.

" Geometrically" Vertical being yet another example of my "out on a limb" line of thinking re Homer's definitions. We have Geometrically Flat why not Geometrically Vertical?



Yoda , if you're here .......life line. I dont want this to get messed up and there is a need for precision here, which may be lacking. The old Left ARm Flying Wedge / plane of the left wrist cock/ inclined plane thing again.

I think you're looking at it the wrong way, Air.

70 degrees or whatever between the two forearms when you look down at them is OK.

But at impact - down the line - the right forearm should be on plane with the shaft* and the left wrist should be flat.

Now, if the left wrist is geometrically flat at impact, the plane of the left arm flying wedge (the plane defined by left arm and shaft*).

And if the right forearm is on the shaft* plane at impact. you will have a plane defined by the right forearm and the shaft* that is 90 degrees to the LAFW. At impact, the LFFW plane will be the same as the swing plane. So you have one inclined LFFW plane that "aims" down the target line. And one vertical RAFW that aims at right angles to the target line.

shaft* notates the sweet axis from hands to sweet spot. Close enough to shaft for most discussions.

Edit: The plane of the wedges are defined by the angles between left arm & shaft, respectively right forearm and shaft. If you look at those angles as lying on two different planes you should see a 90 degree difference between the two planes.

OB & Bernt
 

I forgot that it is impact (fix) that we measure, so I think I now can see the 90 degrees after all...
Thanks for clearing this up.

BTW:

It wasn't so easy to wind down the copying as I had thought, so today I have supplied some "oldies, but goodies"....

Oldies, but goodies
 

Longitudinal Acceleration

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1271

Oldies, but goodies
 

The Swinger's Right Forearm Takeaway

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1370

Oldies, but goodies
 

The Dreaded Shoulder Turn Spinout

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1473

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdsXK06EGA

Oldies, but goodies
 

The Gateway

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3

Oldies, but goodies
 

What Not To Do

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1673

Lagniappe
 

I edited my post #8 here for clarification, additional information, and reference. In that regard . . .

I breeze through Air's considered resurrections and know I could 'tighten' every one.

Happily, 9000+ posts into this thing . . .

I'm better.

:smile:

Oldies, but goodies
 

#3 Location in Relation to Plane Line

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1694

Oldies, but goodies
 

Clubhead speed

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1852

Oldies, but goodies
 

Pivot / Non-Pivot Stroke Delivery

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=1863

Oldies, but goodies
 

Accumlator #4 and the #4 Pressure Point

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2059