Thx for feeding me information. It didn't say pling after one reading - but I'll try again (and again).

"Do you know how to Swivel during the Backstroke and Swivel the Clubface Vertical for Impact?"
I guess not.

"Would you like to know what those Alignments are and how to get them?" Yes.

Anyway I will copy this and one day (soon I hope) it will come in handy when I suddenly get it (if that day comes..). For the time being I can relate to shanking. That's one of my specialities.

Master move?
 

Is there such a thing as a master move in the golf swing - and if that's the case, what would it be?

The master move the 25th component in TGM. It ties everything together in a very neat and foolproof way so that you don't have to think about all the nitty gritty details. But Homer left it out of the book because he was planning to file a patent. That's why we're all still searching for the holy grail. All except Yoda. But Yoda is bound by an NDA that he had to sign before Homer could share his big secret.

Seriously; I think the master move is to put your mind in your hands and have your main focus on what you're trying to do with the club, the ball and the hands at a very high level. Your ball striking intentions should adjust the components and bring the puzzle together through mental background processes. When golf is simple you can just take aim and fire at as many cylinders as you want to. And the components will deliver according to the plan.

This requires components that are well learned and organised to comply with what your hands need to do. Unfortunately, this organisation tends to drift constantly.

The golfing machinery doesn't have the mechanical and structural rigidity that other machines do. It is basically in the process of falling apart all the time. Preventive maintenance and good monitoring skills is required to keep the machine functioning well enough to det the job done. The minute you start believing that you've "got it" and shut down your monitors, that's when you're heading for problems. Feeling what's going on in the stroke is incredible important. Monitoring skills.

When you put your mind on one single component (like the shoulder turn or foot action or whatever) there is a tendency that all the other components disappear from the radar. And before you know it you've completely lost sight of your ball striking and have no idea where the ball is going to go.

And I guess, also a stable mindset is part of the receipt for success. But that's a part I know very little about, really.:laughing1 Cause my mindset tends to be drifting all the time. If I play well I get more ambitious and creative for each shot. If I struggle I am just too keen on fixing whatever problem there may be even though I am able to keep the ball in play.

We all want to play excellent golf, and how well we play makes a big difference to how we think and feel out on the course. The irony of it is that we would probably play better with a quiet mind that just repeated the same thinking over and over and were unaffected by the quality of ball striking and the score.

This was a lot different than I had expected, but not less interesting. I had no idea that this could be so complex. But it's probably right (as usual). The mechanics are something to learn - and "forget" in a sence - because it should be translated into feel. But at one stage or another it's probably ok to focus on a master move if this piece of mechanics is especially important in one's swing. And that can vary from player to player, I guess..?

Ready . . . Fire!
 

Fred Couples was quoted recently as saying, "Lots of times I don't even aim".

:shock:

There is aiming and there is aiming, no? Has he taking the game to a higher level than hands controlled pivot perhaps?

Playing with "ball flight controlled hands and pivot"?

Look at the target. Plan the stroke. Visualise the ball flight. and hands and pivot are set to go. He is scary precise with his approaches when he's hot.

Is that over confidence or just foolish?

A "Couple" of Targets
 

One of my students of many years, Jim Renner now a new member of the PGA Tour, came to me this spring to work on his pre-shot routine or we have come to know as Preliminary Address (8-1). When he asked me what I do, I explained to him about Alignment and how I always used the same ideas used by Jack Nicklaus. He looked at me puzzled as if he never heard of such a thing. When I pressed him on how he aligns himself to the target he said, “I just look out there and hit it". This immediately brought Fred couple to mind. "Why didn't we ever go over this before," he asked. To which I replied, "We never had to."

The hole truth
 

The brain's ability to recall successful past performances regarding distance and direction, or, in other words, talent.

Get into his positions. The Clubshaft is close to parallel to the Plane Line. Are your Dots facing up toward the sky? They should.

Perform the Following with a Bent and Level Right Wrist.

Swivel

1. Stay in that position and take your Left hand off the Club.
2. Do some right arm dumbell curls. Up and down. repeat. Notice that the Clubface becomes aligned to the Plane when you bend your elbow up from this position.
3. Notice that the Clubface Swivels to the Plane when you bend your elbow and swivels back to vertical when you unbend your right elbow.

Swiveling is almost completely automatic with full swings. Unbend your right elbow until your right arm is straight and you'll see a complete pre-impact swivel to vertical.


Next: Horizontal Hinge - Simple.

1. Assume the positions of the Golfer above.
2. Do you see where the clubface is pointing? Yes. It's facing away from you and across the target line.
3. Take your left hand off of the club. Keep your right elbow bent.
4. move your right arm wedge (as a single unit) to your Left until the Clubface is facing your target by rotating your right forearm. It's ok to pivot a little. Your right forearm is now on the angle of approach, but not actually because it's still bent.
5. Are the two dots facing up? They should. Did you notice how easily the clubface closed? Yes. Was that difficult to do? no.

6. Assume the positions of the Golfer above.
7. Do you see where the clubface is pointing? Yes. It's facing away from you and across the target line.
8. Take your left hand off of the club
9. Unbend your right elbow until your arm is almost straight.
10. The dots are still facing up
11. move your right arm wedge (as a single unit) to your Left until the Clubface is facing your target. It's ok to pivot a little.
12. Are the two dots facing up? They should. Did you notice how easily the clubface closed? Yes. Was that difficult to do? no. Now, your right forearm is on the angle of approach that HK talks about. This is just like your right forearm wedge at Impact Fix.

13. Assume the positions of the Golfer above.
14. Do you see where the clubface is pointing? Yes. It's facing away from you and across the target line.
15. leave your left hand on the club.
16. Unbend your right elbow until your arm is almost straight.
17. The dots are still facing up
18. move your right arm wedge (as a single unit) to your Left until the Clubface is facing your target. It's ok to pivot a little.
12. Are the two dots facing up? They should. Did you notice how easily the clubface closed? Yes. Was that difficult to do? no.
13. Do you notice how your left wrist rolled and the back of the left wrist is facing the target. Yes.
14. Did you twist your right wrist? no
15. are the dots still facing up? yes.

16. Here is what you did. You Uncocked, Swiveled and Rolled On-Plane.

Now, make those motions with your right elbow moving as it would while doing normal golf swings.

Go hit some pitch shots. No More Shanks. Are the Dots facing up at Impact? Yes.


(For Hitters, the Dots are Facing the Target). If a Swingers wrist dot is facing the target, then he's mixing hitting and swinging.

So it can not be recommended to everyone - only those with a lot of talent and many good performances to look back to..

Seeing is Believing
 

Everybody is different. That is what makes the game and life so interesting.

Can't argue with that.

Nr. 600
 

I must have written a lot of rubbish to have got to this high number.

Probably. Look how well it has worked for City.
Actually, that is an unfair comment. Everytime I click the mouse on LBGF the first two things I look for is "21 hcp." and "Air."
Keep it going.
g

Not stopping soon. Today I have been especially naughty. I have offended The Swedes, Danes and Finns on the same evening.

Air, what have you learned for sure?
 

For example, when you practice, what do you practice? :)

For me, it's Basic and Acquired Motion and I emphasize the Vertically Un-cocking left wrist since that is the shot I use within 150 yards. I practice keeping as still as possible and throwing the FLW Down making sure to Swivel and Finish in balance. I want to know what every club does at every trajectory, under control.

I also experiment with every possible swing or hit looking for the most yards under control, off the tee.


ICT

Here, in my home town - in the winter, I don't practice enough. It's only a 5 min drive/10 min trip with the bike to the indoor golf hall, but I go there too seldom. So I'm missing something there. Lazy it seems. But when I was in the south recently I practiced about 2 hours each day. A lot of short pitches and chips (acquired and basis motions. And total motion on the driving range. A litte putting as well. But I have not got detail conscious enough yet to do what you are doing, but that sounds like a good idea. I probably need to focus on the down and out part of the downstroke and get my hands more educated. The transiton has also got to be very important to work on - avoiding OTT. Downstroke waggle.

The swivel you are talking about - is that by any chance a left underarm role? Do the last 3 fingers of the left hand play a part in this? That's important for me to do. And extensor action. I read everybody's talking about #1 PP, but Yoda taught me to use the 2 mid fingers of the right hand to apply extensor action on the backswing then pull the shaft and the left arm with the body pivot on the downswing. Do you also use this? Do these 2 methods work in the same way?

Christmas
 

In case anybody is interested - It's Christmas eve (24th) that is the big day for us - not Christmas day (25th). At 5 pm Christmas is officially started. Before that the churches have had sermonies at 3 pm and 4 pm. Full of people. Then it's time to have the Christmas dinner at home and after that the presents. This is a sensible way to do it. No rush and stress early the next morning. Sleep late if you want. Church as usual at 11 am (or often 1 hour later on this day). Much less people than the day before. But a fine dinner on this day too, but earlier than the day before. The 26th is also a holiday, but with no great traditions - other than a lot of family gatherings in the afternoon.

Those are interesting concepts, Air.
 

I am speaking about the Finish Swivel shown here:

ttp://lynnblakegolf.com/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo& Itemid=85&video_id=111

It can be seen in all the videos but really meditate on this since it is crucial to your golf.

Compare that video with these:

http://lynnblakegolf.com/index.php?o...5&video_id=121

and


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVws0CQqTDc


As I understand this so far, your Pivot starts your stroke down and initiates several small "rocket booster" type moves that make the club head scream/whoosh with speed. You prepare to roll on the line. You Pivot. You Un-cock the LW on the line using a Throw (several choices including the Sweep which I think is a simple extension of your right arm (not right wrist which is bent) almost at your right/back foot). You have to use a Throw! It fires the FLW /BRW DOWN to Both Arms Straight stopping the FLW from bending since it is too busy rolling via the Finish Swivel to the balanced Finish. This is for Swinging.

The Hitting motion has the Pivot and then a Thrust makes a bunch of things happen at once which I haven't sorted out yet besides the Vertically Uncocking LW, Both Arms Straight and Finish Swivel.

Anyway....there's a start for the week.

I'll have more questions for you later.


ICT

Great.
The finish Swivel - is that to avoid steering/blocking or just a means to a nice finish?

At last I went to the golf hall and hit 75 balls with PW, 8 and (2) hybrid. I feel that I haven't used these muscles for a while. Strangely enough (?) I produced the best shots with the hybrid off the deck. Most of them were straight and powerful. Of course I don't know how far they would have gone, it's 80 y to the wall, but it felt ok - and feel from mechanicis is what it's all about !?

Next time I'll try to keep City's points in # 261 in mind as well..

Air,

The club has to overtake the hands after follow through (both arm straight.) You must prepare for this as you don't want it to happen by having the left wrist collapse. Mr. YODA's teaching in this area has been HUGE in my helping others improve. Two wonderful videos.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...That-Line.html

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html

"Get around, get around, got it around!"

"It's where the Golfing Machine lives!!!"

Look at 12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES

Homer Kelley felt it so important, that not only is finish swivel included in Section 12 - Finish - #41, but in Section 6 - The Top - #22, he asks you to PREPARE for it. DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP.

Please study these. YODA stresses the importance constantly with good reason. 12-3 is a great section of the book that you can study, bring to the range, and use for help when you are not with YODA.
:golf:
Kevin

My impressions;

All of the above. After you get past both arms straight you can't do anything but swivel.

If you develope a nice smooth swivel then there is no way to steer or block. A nice smooth swivel is like soft butter. Nothing else is happening. Smooth, coasting.

A good swivel will make you smile before you look at the ball flight.

The Bear

I've seen these a dusin times before, but I probably haven't understood its importance before. Thx for pointing it out for me.

Sounds like a good feeling to develope. Thx.

HaHa, that's exactly how it works for me as well AIR. I need someone to point out what's happening, and it becomes much clearer. I watch these many times and learn something new constantly.

Kevin

That's why it's great to have you, Bernt, Daryl, City, OB, The Bear and others to help me understand things I hardly would have understood on my own. Not forgetting to mention Yoda of course.

In the slot
 

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../8/8E6Mu6Y556s

I'm not sure how this fits in with TGM teaching, but I found it interesting to see the 3 different ways to get the club in the slot - especially the third one - the sledge hammer variant. It looks like OTT, but isn't. Tempting...

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../2/MDfizde8JRw

When Lynn is demonstrating the finish swivel for the swinger, on the impact bag, he is using the left arm.

When that is done with both hands on the club, what is powering the action? Pivot? left arm? right arm? All the above?

I can get that action on a half wedge, but it seems to work best when i add some right arm thrust, but use the left hand and arm to monitor the rolling and uncocking.

I am mixing up some uncompatible components I fear. Would apreciate any clarity that can be provided.

Thank you for your great contribution. It's something that I'm going to study til I get blue in the face. :laughing1

Swivel Stuff
 

Good question, Chipingguru. Thanks!

Centrifugal Force -- driven by the Body's Transfer of Momentum Throw-Out Action (2-K, 2-M-4, 6-M-1) -- powers the Swinger's Finish Swivel. But, Swinging or Hitting, the Swivel Action is always a Left Forearm function (Sketches 2-K #4 and #5).

Remember, any Swivel Action is a true rotation of the Left Forearm and Wrist (indeed, the entire Left Arm Flying Wedge / 6-B-3-0-1). This as opposed to Horizontal or Angled Hinge Action (2-G) wherein the Wrists appear to Roll -- from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through / Both Arms Straight position -- but in reality are merely staying Vertical to either the Horizontal or Inclined Planes (and thereby producing respectively Clubface 'Close Only' or 'Close with Layback' Motions).

For example, the Release Swivel rotates the Left Wrist from its Turned condition ('palm down' to Plane) to its Vertical condition (at Impact) for Hinging. The Finish Swivel rotates the Left Wrist from its Vertical condition (at the end of the Follow-Through) to its Snap-Rolled condition ('palm up' to Plane) in preparation for the Finish.

:salut:

Thank you Lynn,

You got me opening up the yellow book, and enthusiastically into the back yard for some night time swiveling.

Much better than the files I had brought home from work!

Do not disturb, incubating.

Hey that would be a cool golf machine tee-shirt eh?

Percy Boomer
 

Percy Boomer writes about how to have conscious control by feel instead of thinking about our shots. and that it's essential to feel and control the swing as a whole and not concentrate upon any part of it.

I guess that's fine, but it has to be after the mechanics has been mastered?

I think this goes to the heart of what hands controlled pivot is about. No need to wait for the perfect stroke, IMO.

OTOH, I Jack Nicklaus has said on numerous occations that he was capable of using 5 (?) swing keys while competing. I'm not sure of the exact number here, but it's a big one. But he didn't recommend more than one or two for the recreational golfer.

It's all about finding the right balance I guess. Been trusting and maintaining. And it's certainly easier to take on the right attitude in the short game than in the long game. I guess most people can learn a thing or two about hands controlled pivot from their short game.

Tying Your Shoelaces
 

The example I use all the time is that of tying your shoelaces. In the beginning, it is a learned, laborious, fumbling, frustrating set of consciously controlled mechanics (make the 'bunny ear', etc.). In the end, it is one cohesive feel, executed totally subconsciously, with barely even a conscious thought triggering the act. And so it is with the Golf Stroke.

:golf:

I guess you are talking about golfers with control of the game (via control of the ball with the club face via control of the flat left wrist)? It's easier to trust your swing when everything is working just fine and the feedback is positiv. But not everybody enjoys this type of game control. I guess this confident, automatic, subconscious motion (that makes the shots) belongs to better players and not so much to high hcp players? But everybody is hoping to get better and it's a good goal to aim at + a lot of hard work I would think...

Why is it easier to take on the right attitude in the short game? Some of the most difficult shots belong to the short game and then there is this darn problem of the keeping the head down and not peeking up to see the result of a difficult shot.

I don't know how to formulate the "why" Air.

But it seems to me like most people can just pick up a putter and start to put. And it's how I feel.

Why do you try to keep your head down if it wants to go up? Have you tried the alternative?

I was thinking that the book (JM's) could have been shorter if he just said:

10-7-G, 10-7-A, 10-7-F

and the book (JM's again) could have been more complete if he said:

10-7-A thru 10-7-H

Homer put a lot into two pages with pictures.

Just my silly comments.

The Bear