Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 81077)

When I start to Trace a Plane Line that is too Inside Out, this is usually my problem. My eye line looks just like MM is trying to get you to do. My right ear ends up closer to my right shoulder than my left ear is to my left shoulder. Your eyes can fool you. Two wrongs can make a right, but there are better ways to fix the OTT.

Originally Posted by airair (Post 81076)

If it's ok for Kev, I'll copy up some stuff to read (and let others read if they want):

...
THE GOLFING MACHINE is about making thoughtful and
knowledgeable Choices leading to the ultimate goal of
having an Uncompensated Stroke Pattern.
The three all-encompassing Primary Concepts on which all details can be easily
attached as they surface - THE HINGE ACTION (2-G)
of an ANGULAR MOTION (2-K) operating on an INCLINED PLANE (2-F)
"Give me a flat left wrist, a lag pressure point
and a straight plane line, I can teach anyone to play golf"
THE SECRET OF GOLF IS NOT A POSITION - IT’S A PRESSURE!

Centered Pivot - STEADY HEAD ALWAYS CENTERED Between The Feet
CLUB ALWAYS ON PLANE
The FLAT LEFT WRIST controls the CLUB-FACE
The RIGHT SHOULDER is the LIASON between the
POWER PACKAGE and the PIVOT

SET UP
♦ Take grip at low point with left wrist vertical.
♦ Level Left Wrist at address and right forearm on plane with all clubs
♦ Set up with left foot outside left shoulder – Lee Trevino Step – Helps
get weight moving left on downstroke – Get the core moving level over
a flat – stable left foot. – GEORGE KNUDSON
♦ Feel bend in knees
♦ Knuckles line up underneath shaft
♦ Flare out the both feet.
♦ Don’t get ball too far back in stance
♦ Aim Left, Swing Right, Walk Down the Middle – LEE TREVINO

ACCUMULATION – LOADING - STORAGE
♦ Shoulders turning too flat. “FEEL” Rotated Shoulder Turn on backstroke.
♦ Right Forearm needs to fan more right away at startup to get the club on
plane. Work on Swing Plane, one end always pointed at target line.
♦ Feel load & lag pressure in hands
♦ Float Loading - Right wrist angle increases on downswing

DELIVERY
♦ Release #4 and #1 earlier and faster with the goal of getting hands to
aiming point. Not releasing accumulators #4 and #1 creates too much
axis tilt, and the right hip gets in the way of the delivery of the hands.
♦ Get left knee in front of left foot at start of down stroke. HULA – HULA
♦ Deliver lag pressure to impact & beyond with flat left/bent right wrists
♦ The left knee must move in front of the left hip on the down stroke. The
left hip must move in front of the left shoulder.

RELEASE
♦ Get back to the Elbow Plane to make better use of PA #3
♦ Need more Extensor Action at Impact and Follow Through. Left arm
breaks down right after impact due to lack of EA. This also helps get the
club back on plane with finish swivel.
♦ Keep steady head centered. When the head moves forward, the body
stops…
♦ Arms need to stay closer to body after impact and re-hinge.
♦ Your body can’t rotate if your head doesn’t. Rotate the head towards the
target on the down-stroke. Hogan - Annika
♦ Keep the right hip and right shoulder moving through the ball

FINISH
♦ My “Palm Springs” feeling of rotating the chest helps extend the spine!
♦ My hands need to be educated to go back up the plane at follow through
to finish.
♦ It's the right arm that takes the club to finish back up plane.
♦ Finish swivel – Feel like the left wrist never bends!
♦ Annika Eyes
♦ RELEASE THE FORWARD TILT OF THE HIPS

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 81077)

When I start to Trace a Plane Line that is too Inside Out, this is usually my problem. My eye line looks just like MM is trying to get you to do. My right ear ends up closer to my right shoulder than my left ear is to my left shoulder. Your eyes can fool you. Two wrongs can make a right, but there are better ways to fix the OTT.

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 81079)

Hi Air,

Please note these are just random notes of some things I am fooling with as swing thoughts, not meant to be a blueprint for anybody. I just don't want my random notes/thoughts to confuse or goof anybody up... Also, nothing I have is original. All taken from posters here and other sites. :)

Thanks,
Kevin

Originally Posted by airair (Post 81078)

My bold.
I am all ears.(eyes)

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 81084)

Air,

I am flying blind here. Not knowing your unique situation and the root causes without seeing your motion, I will make some general comments regarding Zone One. Your issues may not be in Zone One, but I’ll take that chance.

After you Start Down with a Slide with a Delayed Turn to create some Axis Tilt, incorporate the following… I have been using this drill with my students for quite sometime with great success.

Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
"You take your stance at the with your driver. Then take the driver and place it across your shoulders with the grip toward the target flush with your left shoulder and the head out the back (about two feet sticking out the back). Then you backswing to the top and on the downswing, try to hit the ball with the head of the driver (which you can't of course). This will give you immediate feel of getting the right shoulder down on plane. If you have not been doing this then it will feel quite different.

This single drill got me to focus on my right shoulder and I can now feel immediately when I am not down on plane with my right shoulder. I took film after this drill and the difference is quite startling."

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 81080)

LOL

Drew, I have the same issue as you, getting too far inside and my shoulders are way under plane. Doing the opposite of Mr. Malaska's drill for me, getting my Eye Line on my baseline, instead of pointed right, seems to really help me...

Feel from mechanics. I would teach the student where we ultimately want his eyeline, parallel to the baseline, and perhaps he needs to feel exaggerated to get there...

Does that make any sense?

Kevin

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 81086)

0 Do you have any flexibility or health issues?
1 Do you have a close up of your grip?
2 Describe your ball flight?
3 What do you best shots look like?
4 What is your favorite and least favorite club in your bag?
5 Do you practice Impact Fix?
6 Work on the Zone One Drill in a mirror before we move on. Don't worry if it feels "different". That is a good thing.
7 There are other issues that need to be addressed based on your answers to the questions above.