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Yoda,
I am only answering #2 on a CP model (hitting) Fade.

45DEG LEFT HAND AND 20DEG RIGHT.
angles change if the hands raise through impact.
WHICH WILL CHANGE THE ASPECT OF THE GRIP. But not loss of Prpoints. However baseline changes will promate this movement.
I am a hitter however most of the time.
Well its late and thanks for all the good reading guys. You all are holding the golf world on your shoulder keep it up

just noticed the question change a little. ill get to it later thanks guys

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Ben,

As an introduction, know that I am totally ignorant in the MORAD System except that I know there are ten 'positions' of the Golf Stroke. Also, certain angles are measured in degrees (as opposed to TGM's absolutes, e.g., Flat, Vertical, Horizontal, Straight, Parallel, Centered and On Plane). I truly want to learn more, and we may well need a new Thread (or even a new Forum) to do the ideas justice.

But for now, my first questions:

Are you referring to degrees of Wristcock? If so, from what alignment? If possible, please reference TGM's Level, Cocked and Uncocked Wrist Conditions. Thanks!

Boss . . . This here's what limited knowledge I got about this . . . but I can speak our LANGUAGE. . . .the 45 degrees is the amount of TURN in the left hand. I understand that this "leaning towards" 10-2-D is to eliminate the varaibles of the Swivels that are associated with Swinging and Standard Wrist Action. I think the thought is that since the left palm is ALREADY Turned to the Plane then the Wrist can just Uncock throwing the ClubFace at the Ball. Ala Lee Buck who I believe would be one of the "models" or whatever it is called.

I think that the 45 degree grip is an animal that lives in the space between the B-Grip and the D-Grip.

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

I think that the 45 degree grip is an animal that lives in the space between the B-Grip and the D-Grip.

Exactly ;)

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

Are you sure about that that is what it is perpendicular to? I think RWH has it.

6-B-3-0-1 THE FLYING WEDGES The Clubhead may appear to move in a an arc around and outside the Hands when related to the Left Arm – the very basic Left Arm Flying Wedge. But when related to the Right Forearm, it appears to move “On Plane” with the Right Forearm, at its normal rigid angle (Bent Right Wrist) – the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. So – except in Sections 1 and 3 (Chapter 8 ) the entire Left Arm, the Clubshaft and the back of the Left Hand are ALWAYS positioned against the same flat plane – the Right Forearm and the Clubshaft are, in like manner, positioned on the plane of the Right Wrist Bend AT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE LEFT ARM PLANE. That is the precision assembly and alignment of the Power Package structure and is mandatory during the entire motion. Hitting or Swinging. Study 4-D-1 regarding “Grip” and “Flat Left Wrist”. Also see 7-3. Then, ideally, the Left Wrist is always Flat and the Right Wrist is always Level (4-A-1, 4-B-1).

Are you saying that if the forearm and the rest of that appendage, when laying on the same plane, only the forearm can meet the perpendicular criteria?

Curious, very curious and probably sufficient cause for me to holler out for Mike O's assistance!:pale:

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Originally Posted by Burner

Well . . . it is the Left ARM Flying Wedge but it is the Hand Motion (turn roll swivel) that is accomplished by the bones in the forearm . . . so I ain't sure . . . Don't call Mike O . . . his two cans and a string won't reach across the pond.

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Originally Posted by bantamben1

45 degree left hand 20 degree right hand

Hi,
I just want to confirm...if the left is 45 and the right is 20, then in this grip the palms are not parallel to each other?

sorry if this is a dumb question. It's just that I hear from so many people that they "should" be parallel to each other.

thanks

Check the pres.point to the left thumb. And how it is going to work with the (trigger finger-simple terms) to the hitting model. It helps to keep it intact passing the through the ball.
That is what makes a good ball strikers.
hope that was as easy as I can put it.

As far as I'm concerned, the Plane of the Left Wristcock (or Left Arm Flying Wedge) is always perpendicular to the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend (or the Right Forearm Flying Wedge).

Yep Yep.My right arm would be closed 12degrees at set up for this, thanks Tongzilla

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Originally Posted by tongzilla

As far as I'm concerned, the Plane of the Left Wristcock (or Left Arm Flying Wedge) is always perpendicular to the Plane of the ...Right Forearm Flying Wedge).

[Edit and bold emphasis by Yoda.]

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Originally Posted by cpwindow4

Yep Yep.My right arm would be closed 12degrees at set up for this, thanks Tongzilla

You can see a Right Angle (90 degrees or perpendicular) from a Tee-Box away.

This is the precision alignment -- Left Arm to Right -- of the Flying Wedges.

CP, to what plane is your right arm "closed 12 degrees?"

And, can you tell 12 degrees from, say, 11 or 13 degrees?

Especially...

Under the gun?