Last night
 

before the trip to the South tomorrow. I have just finished a 2 hour walk to keep the legs in shape.

Earlier today I was in the indoor golfhall and hit balls, so that it doesn't feel so unfamiliar when I get there and can start the outdoor trainings season 2011. I feel that am really working the right forearm/arm in the backswing pulling the left with me with extensor action. The top of the backswing feels shorter, flatter, more compact and powerful. I think there is less OTT there. Hope so, at least. Will make a little utube video, which I can show when I come back to see if I'm on to something here or if it's only wishful thinking..

When it comes to hinging - I think I can do basic and aquired motion chip/pitch shots with angled hinging without too much difficulty, horizontal hinging as well, but perhaps a little more difficult for me - and worst of all vertical hinging: feels quite akward. I'm not sure if it's worth a lot of training? I guess there are other more important areas to work on...?
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I'm off.
 

My wife is bringing her lap top, so I guess I can carry on almost as usual....

Ah ha moment.
 

Now, if only you can get her to do all the training as well you will have an abundance of time to keep posting. :laughing9

I never thought of that before...
I have actually done my training today. Not completely satisfied. It was easier to hit on a math without a ball. Chocking. My drives were terrible to begin with. Chopped down on the top of the ball it seemed. But when I concentrated on swinging in such a way that I tried to hit tha ball to the outside (to the right) it went much better.

More Percy Boomer
 

He writes:
There are three basic feels of the golf swing - the pivot, the shoulders moving in response to the pivot, and then the arms moving in response to the shoulders. These are the basic movements of a connected and therefore controlled swing, and must all be built into the framework of your feel of the swing.
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..so long as you keep these primary feels right, nothing much will go wrong with your game.
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How does this fit in with the TGM teaching?

CF Throwout comes to mind and a whack of other related stuff. Each accumulator has a like numbered pressure point for feel control, delay the release of #4 to delay #1 or #2 and 3. The sequential set of feels is the Downstroke Sequence, Swinging from the Feet, the Pivot, the inside swings the outside etc.

Zone 1(pivot) and Zone 2 (arms) but if you add Zone 3 (Hands) then you could address how the Pivot (CF) can align the Hands for Impact. Impact hands vs Address Hands. Lagging Takeaway, Lag and Drag etc etc they all relate. In fact, CF alone can bring all components in line I believe. Which, as Drew points out, when properly employed makes manipulation as unnecessary as a tv in a honeymoon suite. Which gets us into True Swinging , Impact geometry , grip rotation.........ah heck the whole book if you start talking about manipulation and over riding CF throw out........the Throws.... Release points on and on.

Without what Percy Boomer is talking about there's no yellow book as we know it.

Thanks - as usual I can't take it in at once. I'll have to dwell with it some more first..

Like Nicklaus?
 

Is it a good idea if the head and chin are turned slightly to the right at the set-up i.e to look at the ball out of the corner of the left eye?

This is individual from player to player, but it's probably good for you Air. It will help you to strike the ball from the inside.

In fact, this small adjustment is often enough to turn a fade into a nice draw for some people.

I second that BerntR!

Your shoulders are freed to turn easier from this slight pivot of the centered head.:salut:

That would be terrific. =D>

Bracing
 

New question:
I've been reading about the importance of correct bracing in the set-up and golf swing. What's this all about? Exactly what gets braced and how is it done?.

Percy Boomer:
When your game goes to pieces, try bracing yourself up.
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Why? How? :confused1

Rotating a golf club is like spinning a wheel that is highly unbalanced. What happens then? The tail wags the dog. You are the dog, the club is the tail. You need to be firm and braced to avoid this. Using an aiming point or focus on impact fix will help. Keeping the back foot ready to push forward already at address also help.

Er bracing det samme som å stemme i mot - et mottrykk?

Left heel - right shoulder
 

Is there a connection between the left heel and right shoulder that needs some consideration?

Noe tilsvarende. I enkelte sammenhenger tror jeg også det kan oversettes til å stålsette seg. En blanding av de to er vel hva det dreier seg om her, tenker jeg.

Power center
 

Where is a golfer's power center and how can this give a feeling of the clubhead - if you are doing it right?

:golfer: :scratch:

Not easy to answer, I guess? :confused:

I didn't understand the question Air. Or the questions. I think power center and feeling the clubhead is two different things.

This is not a "Journey to the Center of Your Girth"
 

Zone #2 is Power, Force, Club Head Control located in the Arms.
Its Power Center is located in the Left Shoulder.

Pressure Points will tell you if you are doing it right.

It's some Percy Boomer stuff...He says you can't feel the clubhead if the power center isn't intact/ doing what it is suposed to do - or somthing like that..

Thanks as always - I'll see what i can do with it...

Having internet problems here. Have to use the pay service after all.
All golf is opposition. Right?:confused1

Do you (really) putt as you drive?

How is the swing brought down to a one point center of feel?

Some mathematician said: You do not swing through an inclined plane - you swing through a vertical plane but with depth.

He also said: The only spin you can put on a golf ball is back-spin. To put top-spin is a physical impossibility. :think:

What is meant by a connected (compact?) swing? How is it done? How is the connection broken?

Since you're speaking plain english here the questions you're asking could come from anywhere. And have a home in any context. And mean any thing. So in general it is hard to comment on your questions.

However, I know that "I putt as I drive" comes from Boomer. And I really like that one. The putting being a scaled down version of the driver stroke, with power accumulators zeroed. There are a few common assets between full stroke and putting as far as pressure point alignment, low point, aiming etc is conserned. If I lose the plane line with the driver I also lose the ability to hole a lot of 6 foot putts. When we move on to the the greenside short game the commonalities increases. To an extent where I sometimes get a "that's it feeling" hitting a chip and am ready to rip it on the next tee with the driver.

I use minimum pivot lag when I chip. I locate the hands at the spot where they are about to overtake the shoulder turn. And I turn my torso so that the shoulders have overtaken the hips. This enables me to hit the ball pretty firm without rushing the ball over the green. It's my minimum leverage stroke. It works really well for high, soft landing chips with very little back spin and quite predictable roll. But this variationy creeps into the long game from time to time and then it's throwaway city. So the more similarities you can make work for you the better.

Yes, all the latest I have asked about is from Percy Boomer. I'm trying to understand what he means and if it's acceptable for us here.. Your comments are always rewarding.

It almost sounds like the matematician speaks of dual horizontal hinge action. The vertical hinge pin. Add some debth and roll and you're on the inclined plane.

If you want to put back spin on the ball you have to contact the ball above it's equator. Usually that means serious topping. But it can happen with a driver from time to time. the ball will then carry some 30 yards before it dives into whatever is in the ground.

You can also put top spin on the ball with a putter - with moderate loft and hands ahead of the ball at impact. This also means hitting the ball down into the ground. The said advantage of doing this is that you get topspin right away. If you use the loft of the putter, it will have a small carry, a little back spin and then the ball will skid for short stretch before it gets its true roll (which is the same as top spin).

Top spin putting seems to be fashion these days. But there are many putting experts who advocates hitting up on the ball with a putter - and that is doing the opposite. I've tested this from the rough. And at least from outside the green you get much better distance control if you hit down on the ball and get the ball rolling right away.

I guess this has something to do with rhythm, Air.

The connection is broken when the rhythm is broken. Hips leads shoulders. Shoulders leads hands. Hands leads clubhead. All lagging components searches their inline condition. The club is inline when it has caught up with the hands etc. This is however just a brief spot on an overtaking process when the lagging component takes the lead and the swing decelerates. And when that happens you are disconnected.

Understanding Connection
 

Air,

See my post #8 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...0333#post80333.

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Thank you.

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BTW. I'm back at home. I have done about 2 hours training 12 of the 14 days we were there. A lot of wind - many got a cold and soar throats - me too. Could be swine flu. Not everything worked out satisfactory. I always fear that that I'm using time on making mistakes - just as much as doing it right. I don't I think I make use of the lower body in the downswing as I should - too much upper body. Now I have to continue another 5 weeks to be ready for more hard work in March.
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Chin up Air!

Increased awareness and increased knowledge about what you do and what you should do is a great asset that should take you in the right direction. And those are long lasting qualities.

Encouraging comment. Thanks.:salut:

Boomer has a whole chapter on a somewhat different lesson he gave to this mathematician. (P.187 - 195):boxing:

More on Boomer:
http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction...565327,00.html

Tommy "two gloves" Gainey
 

has a strange swing. Any good alignments there? :eyes:

http://www.thegolfchannel.com/golf-v...796/?ref=26000

He hits the ball pretty long and straight, so he must be doing something right!?

(increased) X-factor?
 

Is it a good idea to increase the difference in degrees between the shoulders (90") and the hips (45") = 45" to even more in the downswing by beginning to unwind the hips before the shoulders do the same, so the difference increases to - say 50-60 " - to hit the driver etc farther?

Let's make the shots more interesting..
 

amazing shots
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5JfA1D1pkc&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zav3HnoEgw8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1CKe...eature=related