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airair 11-23-2010 06:08 AM

Tuesday 23.11.10
 
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Daryl wrote:

Air, I think you should understand something. Hinging is the easy part. Not disturbing the Sweetspot Orbit is the Hard Thing. That's what TGM will teach you. And you'll learn that you need a "Flat Left Wrist" to learn how not to disturb the Orbit. If you can get a Flat Left Wrist through Impact, everything else will almost fall in place.

The Clubhead, with a Driver, and the Ball Played back 1 inch behind Low-Point, will travel downwards 1/50th of an inch and outward even less before ball separation. That's how critical it is. 1/50th of an inch. That's the difference between full compression or not. Even with a Putt. You need Hinge Action even with a Putt to gain compression.
It's technique that allows the perfect Orbit of the Sweetspot.
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How does TGM teach you not to disturb the Sweetspot Orbit (besides the FLW)? Doesn't TGM recognize different types of swings - giving different results? Why is this the hard part if TGM teaches this? To hit the sweetspot you will have to have a "perfect" impact following a "perfect" downswing/followthru? How does this relate to what Ben Hogan said about only having 3 perfect shots in a golf round?

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It's time to repeat this:
http://www.iseekgolf.com/golfinstruc...ith-lynn-blake

Daryl 11-23-2010 07:26 AM

I don't know what he meant by three perfect shots.

Down is important. The Left Wrist should be uncocking through Impact.

4 years ago, I learned Max Compression. Then I lost it but now I have it back. What a difference. It's not the same game.

I lost it because I was moving my head two inches. When I kept my head still I was able to create perfect circles again, or something.

I can't tell you enough how much fun it is to play golf that way. Anything else is just so much work I don't want to play.

airair 11-23-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 78936)
I don't know what he meant by three perfect shots.

Down is important. The Left Wrist should be uncocking through Impact.

4 years ago, I learned Max Compression. Then I lost it but now I have it back. What a difference. It's not the same game.

I lost it because I was moving my head two inches. When I kept my head still I was able to create perfect circles again, or something.

I can't tell you enough how much fun it is to play golf that way. Anything else is just so much work I don't want to play.

I guess you are talking about something I have very little experience with - maybe 5-6 shots in my whole "carriere". But that was combined with OTT flipping, but they never the less turned out extremely well. But of course I had no control of these shots, so it was just pure luck. To have the necessary control (with the right technique/motions) must be fun.
Is max compression also depending on this sweetspot orbit you have mentioned and sustained lag pressure?

tim chapman 11-23-2010 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 78936)
I don't know what he meant by three perfect shots.

Down is important. The Left Wrist should be uncocking through Impact.

4 years ago, I learned Max Compression. Then I lost it but now I have it back. What a difference. It's not the same game.

I lost it because I was moving my head two inches. When I kept my head still I was able to create perfect circles again, or something.

I can't tell you enough how much fun it is to play golf that way. Anything else is just so much work I don't want to play.

Hi Daryl

I appreciate it might be an impossible ask & too particular to any one individual but - how would you describe a Max Compression stroke, so a fella might recognise one if he happened to bump into it :-)

Daryl 11-23-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tim chapman (Post 78938)
Hi Daryl

I appreciate it might be an impossible ask & too particular to any one individual but - how would you describe a Max Compression stroke, so a fella might recognise one if he happened to bump into it :-)

I can post a video so you can hear it. All I can say is that the Ball comes off like a rocket with hardly any effort.

Yoda can probably give the best idea on how many golfers he has heard have it and How many tour players have it. I don't know? Maybe 1 of 100 golfers, 1 of 5 or 1 of 10 tour players? He may be the only guy that knows.

if the link below works (click on the picture) listen when he takes a full swing. Watch this guy set his right forearm flying wedge before address. go to 1:40 and start watching


tim chapman 11-23-2010 12:27 PM

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I can post a video so you can hear it. All I can say is that the Ball comes off like a rocket with hardly any effort.
thank you Daryl, the link works, very interesting to see how on plane the right forearm (i'm guessing from how he tucks the elbow in) is at start up, i also notice his flat right wrist & bent left.

It is a pretty distinctive swing motion, I will be seeing if i can replicate it & where it leads, does your swing look like his ?

appreciate it :-)

airair 11-23-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tim chapman (Post 78956)
thank you Daryl, the link works, very interesting to see how on plane the right forearm (i'm guessing from how he tucks the elbow in) is at start up, i also notice his flat right wrist & bent left.

It is a pretty distinctive swing motion, I will be seeing if i can replicate it & where it leads, does your swing look like his ?

appreciate it :-)

You probably mean flat left wrist (FLW) and bent right wrist (BRW).

tim chapman 11-23-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 78958)
You probably mean flat left wrist (FLW) and bent right wrist (BRW).

at impact yes & at start up from his chips, but not at start up from his full swing, i'm thinking he is getting a better feel for lag that way

airair 11-23-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tim chapman (Post 78960)
at impact yes & at start up from his chips, but not at start up from his full swing, i'm thinking he is getting a better feel for lag that way

Ok. That must be adjusted address - and not impact fix. Does that also mean that he is a swinger - or can hitters also begin from adjusted address - allthough impact fix is most common for a hitter (I think)?

tim chapman 11-23-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 78961)
Ok. That must be adjusted address - and not impact fix. Does that also mean that he is a swinger - or can hitters also begin from adjusted address - allthough impact fix is most common for a hitter (I think)?

there are a number of differences between swinging & hitting & i'm only somewhat clear on the ones that influence the downswing, but address position isn't a defining characteristic as far as i'm aware, though you could well be right that hitters more often tend to start from impact fix


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