Mike O. Do you mean he is swiveling instead of hinging in the followthru?

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Hinge Action is the Left Wrist remaining Vertical to one of the Three Basic Planes. Swivel Action (or Wrist Action) is Turning or Rolling away from that Vertical condition.

With Horizontal and Angled Hinge Action, the Vertical Left Wrist appears to Roll through Impact. However, as long as the Wrist remains Vertical, there has been no independent rotation of the Hand (and hence no Swivel).
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Thanks Daryl, great post.

Air,

Another guy with the wrong approach. Adam thinks he's moving the bottom of the clubhead arc around and compensating for changes. To him, the "bottom of clubhead Arc" = Low Point. What he says is irrelevant to me because it bears no resemblance to Low Point according to Homer Kelley.

Low Point is the Heart of the Machine. It is the Basis for all of the Geometry of the Golf Swing. Go ahead and move the ball wherever you like, but don't mess with the one thing that the entire system is based upon.

Low Point is an Alignment. It occurs when the Clubshaft is perpendicular to the Plane Line, the Clubface is Square to the Plane Line and this combined alignment is Aligned to the Bottom of the Arc and the Arc is Aligned to the Center of the Radius of the Primary Lever. The Alignment is inherently designed and built into every club.

All that Adam is actually telling you to do, is hit the Ball before you hit the ground.

Hopefully something educational comes out of this ... this is his answer: "not sure I understand. What does he think I got wrong specifically?

and yes, I am saying hit the ball before the ground. And that, all things being equal, a low point which is lower will enter the turf earlier."

I don't mean to offend him. I'm just saying that his article is not about Low Point. His "Ball Flight Laws" section is also misinformed. He is repeating Jorgenson, Trackman and some old Golf Books. Path is a misinformed concept. Get up to date. All of his is related (Geometry of the Circle, Right Forearm Tracing, Right Forearm Angle of Approach, Low Point). Learn how the direction of Force produced by the Clubshaft can be changed. Homer Kelley spent much of the Geometry of the Circle outlining the concept.

When Homer Kelley coined the term "Low Point", it had nothing to do with how high or low the Clubhead is above or below ground. Low Point is an Alignment. Clubshaft, Clubhead, Clubface, and the Center of Radius for the Primary Lever. This confluence of Alignments can only occur at one single point on the Clubhead Arc (and it is at the bottom of the arc because it's opposite the Radius of the Swing).

When your Clubshaft is perpendicular to the Plane Line and on the correct Lie Angle Plane (for that club), and the Clubface is square to the target and the COG of the Clubhead is exactly opposite your left shoulder. You are aligned to Low Point.

Here is $1,000,000.00 worth of Knowledge-Education

The Force in a Golf Swing is at 90 degrees to the Shaft. Low Point, is where this 90 degree force also becomes "Parallel" to the Plane Line (Target Line). Normally, if you played the Ball straight back from Low Point, the 90 degree force from the shaft is aligned to the right [Angular Force, most everyone calls this "Path" (mistaken term)], and if you square the clubface, you will produce a "Hook".

Question: Per Homer Kelley, In order to hit a straight shot, when the Ball is played 3" aft in your stance, How do you re-align the 90 degree force coming from the shaft so that it is parallel to the plane line?

Answer: Per Homer Kelley, Stand 3" closer to the Ball and align the Clubface square to the base line of the inclined Plane.

This is Low Point Geometry. Homer Kelley was first to discover, understand, and fully conceptualize this Geometry.



To Help you further:
Ball played to the Right of the Orange Line with a square clubface will Hook.
Ball played to the Left of the Orange Line with a square clubface will Slice.
Ball played on the Orange line with an open Clubface will Fade.
Ball Played on the Orange line with a closed Clubface will Draw.

Everyone thinks that ball laws are about Path and Clubface. More precise, they're about Force and Alignment. The Path is always on-plane. Angle of Approach helps you understand that the Force is Angular.

This is something you will show in your videos as well?

Yes, I'll also show the proofs. It will be much more understandable and seem like common sense.

I won't watch this.

I wish I hadn't watched this. I watched a little.

Sorry there is so much trash .. I'm always courious about what you react against ...

Actually, watch 5:35 in the golfguru video. Very important. He demonstrates not to swivel the right wrist during the downstroke and impact. Unfortunately, he fails to bring the right forearm fully into impact and each of his practice swings includes the dreaded uncocking of the right wrist. Geez, I wish these guys could get it together.

Total garbage. You don't try to hit down in order to hit down. It's an alignment. What have these teachers been doing their entire lives? For sure, it's not learning about the golf stroke. Of course needless to say that you can study the wrong things all of the time and end up not knowing anything of value. Like this guy.

This is just stupid. lol:laughing9

Ok, call me crazy, but wouldn't it be easier to say that a pitch shot is any shot that uses 25% of your normal #3 PP Pressure. Oh, wait..."What's a #3 PP Pressure?"

Stroke length ... Pressure. How Long and How hard. How do you know how long to swing unless you know how hard to swing?

Thanks Daryl. It's a shame you have to (you don't have to!), but this is now a way to test the videos and your comments give additional information - which can be usual as a background when your own videos eventually show up.

Hogan doesn't take his own advice!

That's the whole point. Yoda explained this in the PGA summit, that Hogan felt extensor action, but got it wrong when trying to explain what he actually felt.

Did Hogan move his right elbow away from his side in the backswing or keep it right tight against his body?

Take a look at the video once more - and you tell me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pmQBeUOXJU

I was only referring to squeezing the elbows together. It's clear to me that Hogan didn't use EA. And it's debatable whether or not he was actually describing his own swing in the 5L book.

It's a shame that Yoda isn't here any more. I can't speak for him, but I got the impression that he meant Hogan actually felt this tension (EA). How was his width - good width has to be done with EA I would think (?)

I think that BH was a #2 PP Swinger. No EA. He claims to need 2 right hands. Maybe not so unreasonable if the Left hand slows during clubhead acceleration.