It's not supposed to be easy - or if it is - it's not quite working ...

Gravity is earth pulling the club. Like a magnet pulling another magnet.

The higher you lift the clubhead in the back swing the more potential energy you create. Some of this potential energy will be transformed to swing speed as the clubhead drops towards the ground.

Let's assume that you lift the clubhead 2 meters above the ground in the back swing. And that your motion is so efficient that all the kinetic energy you've created by this lift transforms to swing speed. That will give you a mind blowing speed at impact of 14 MPH. If you stretch it and lift the clubhead 3 meters up you might get you up to 21 MPH.

My advice is to stick to TGM.

The way you explain it here - it seems like gravity is overrated with regards to the golf swing? Sure - I'll stick to TGM and their instructors.

Is it true that at some point the turning of the torso in the downswing/release has to stop accelerating to get the best result at impact?
If so, why?

:confused1

False. If the Leading component slows, then the lagging component slows.

Makes sense. Thanks.

In contrast to November and Desember it has actually been rather mild this January. Today I have done a lot of swinging on the veranda in the sunshine (without a ball). I'm much better without the white hard little ball. Made some snowballs though and blasted them to pieces in some total motions. It was almost spring like outside. But it's back to colder weather tomorrow.

On Friday we (me and my wife) are taking a 14 days trip back to the same place we were in November - on Grand Canaria, The Canary Islands. Looking forward to it - golf wise as well.

On a personal note - we will also visit my parents who already are there on a 3 month stay. My dad will be 90 years old in May. He got his green card in 1990 with flying colors and a birdie on his 6th hole of his first round, but gave up golf one year later when he had begun hacking. Then it wasn't fun any more. Oh well ...he never experienced being a hacker for 20 years..

It doesn't have to stop. It doesn't have to slow down. But it will tend to be slowed down.

I think of this as a gear shift. When you shift from 2nd to 3rd gear the engine will rotate on a lower RPM. But you should still step on the gas.

When the club is being released it will have significant slowing down effect on the hands. When accumulator #4 (the arms swing) is released it will slow down the pivot. So yes, the preceeding component does slow down. But the more you can prevent the slowing down, the better you will strike the ball.

AirAir, that sounds like another great trip.

Ok, no deliberate effort to slow it down - on the contrary. Good to know. Thanks.

Absolutely. And a good warm up before the big trip 2 months from now.

Create and sustain the lag
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kip_...eature=related

and : !!!???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWODH...eature=related

How advisable
 

is it to use extensor action (as much as possible) in the basic motion shots?
Does it make the strokes flatter - which in my case probably is a good thing?

In what way can it be a problem to confuse power with force in the golf swing?

Stayin' In Your Shoes
 

Air,

Your question seeks a semantic nuance that will differentiate Power and Force, both as they are and as they are used -- or misused -- in the Golf Stroke. I'll avoid that question for now, but to the extent they are different, it ain't by much. In a word, both are formidable.

Meanwhile, let me opt instead to address the psychological and physiological war at work within us as we play the game:

Hitting the ball as hard as you know how is not "killing the ball"

Trying to hit it harder than that is.

:shock:

:)

I have a vague feeling of a difference between power and force in the OTT move, which seems to be using upper body force in hope of getting a powerful hit, but just messes things up in reality. (But it can probably be explained in other ways..)
:golf:

Shoulder turn
 

In the aquired and especially the total motion - how important is it to get a full shoulder turn? Lately I have felt that my back stroke with extensor action gives me a good wind up/stretch in the left side of the back that really gives me a feeling of stretching out the side muscles in the backswing without active having to turn my shoulders. Of course they turn somewhat, but I could turn them more if I wanted to. But do I want to or need to, if it feels powerful enough as it is (as I have described)? Anybody understand what I am talking about here?

:golf: :confused1

Is this true?
 

From the delivery to the followthru to hit a straight shot:

The clubhead always stays square to the rotating golfer - not the target.

Shoulder Turn:

I understand. AND - I agree.

Right Forearm Takeaway. My Hands travel as far as I make them. If they pull the shoulders, ok. If the distance the Hands travel isn't enough to turn the shoulders very much, ok.

It doesn't "feel" like the Shoulders Start to Turn until I reach an Acquired Motion Backstroke length but they start to Turn before that. The Left side stretch "feel" starts at Takeaway. My Hips start to Turn at Acquired Motion.

The Clubface always stays square to the Left and Right Flying Wedges. Somewhere, there is Truth in that.

Thanks. Very reassuring to hear (read).

And in so doing the FLW and the clubface are constantly in line?

Let me go beyond that thought without you asking.

I think that the Right Forearm Takeaway is the "correct" takeaway procedure. But it goes beyond procedure. It's an Alignment. I'm a big proponent of Blasting the Left Arm off the Chest. This is the only procedure I've used that can align everything to get maximum Blast-off effectively.

Yes. That's what I see.

I think I'm getting that feeling as well - I hope.
:golf: :happy3:

It's nice to be able to see. It's not very satisfactory to be in the dark (for ever).

Percent of Backswing
 

Comments?

......
Here is a list of the 4 Quarters of the Backstroke:

Wrists - The FLW cocks and uncocks. The RW bends. This motion accounts for 25% of the backswing movement.

Shoulder Turn - The shoulders turn so that the left shoulder is directly above the golf ball. The shoulders account for another 25% of the backswing motion.


Forearms Rotate - To get the club on plane, the forearms rotate back. This rotation is the third 25% of the backswing movement.

Lower Body Rotates - The lats and lower body rotate, making up the last 25% of the movement.

Drilling for Toil
 

How are doing with your drills? How many reps are you up to now?

:redface:
I have to admit that it's a long way to go for me to reach the 1500 mark..

Looking For Love In All the Wrong Places
 

Please, Air . . .

Concentrate on the Right Shoulder, not the Left. Take it to the Plane, and the Left Shoulder will take care of itself.

See you in March, my Nordic friend!

:salut:

I'm glad to get that correction - so I know what to trust.
Yes - I'm looking forward to March - it can't come soon enough.
:clap:

Declaration and warning.
 

It may not be of much interest for the readers of this thread, but I just want to point out that in a few days I will be notably more passive on this site - due to not bringing my laptop on my trip to the south. I will take a look at what's going on, but won't be feeding the computer at the resort with too many Euros. My spelling may also be worse for I won't take the time to control my text and check the spelling . All that is on the negative side, but it will be more than compensated by the warmer weather and the possibiliies to do a lot of training. :read: :thumright :golfing_banana:

Creating a Stable Setup
 

1. How much should one stick our rear-end out at address?

2. Where is the weight on the feet - mostly towards the (balls of the) toes or the heels?

Weighing In
 

1. Impact Fix when performed correctly will tell you how much you should stick our rear-end out.

2. Balls and Heels, so you can lift your toes in your shoes.

Thanks. More information in the bank.:bounce:

From today's reading
 

Percy Boomer:

Too much thought about mechanics is bad for anyone's game. Now the reason why golf is so difficult is that you have to learn it and play it through your senses. You must be mindful, but not thoughtful as you swing. You must not think or reflect; you must feel what you have to do.
..
The most difficult thing about learning golf is to distract your mind from everything except the feeling of what you are about to perform.

Precision In-Precision Out
 

Let Mechanics produce and Feel reproduce.
In chapter 14 "The Computer", the fifthe routine is mental attitude-a button that wipes out of the mind everything evcept the program-Let the Motion Make the Shot-the non-emotional execution of a procedure.
HANDS, HANDS,HANDS.

That's probably one of the reasons the mind should be in the hands, so we can stop thinking?

:?

Any thoughts on golf as a side on sport?

:rolleyes:

like tennis, baseball..

What's this?
 

Any experts on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqQN...layer_embedded

early extension?