The last two days I've done a lot of snow shoveling. It probably doesn't help my golf much, but it has to be done...

Comments?
 

Eye line?
 

Is this good advice?

http://www.golf.com/golf/video/artic...654784,00.html

Hogan deep down
 

Ben Hogan from his golf tip after his Shell's Wonderful World of Golf match against Sam Snead sans clothing. Anything Gregg McHatton says, we should pay attention. After all he was in Lynn's master class with Homer Kelley.

http://golfresearch.com/blobtest/front2.html

Thanks. That makes it even more interesting.

Tgm .
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6Wx...eature=related .

Flying wedges
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3C1_...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQplJ...eature=related

Has anybody experience with this?

From Kevins notes
 

If it's ok for Kev, I'll copy up some stuff to read (and let others read if they want):

...
THE GOLFING MACHINE is about making thoughtful and
knowledgeable Choices leading to the ultimate goal of
having an Uncompensated Stroke Pattern.
The three all-encompassing Primary Concepts on which all details can be easily
attached as they surface - THE HINGE ACTION (2-G)
of an ANGULAR MOTION (2-K) operating on an INCLINED PLANE (2-F)
"Give me a flat left wrist, a lag pressure point
and a straight plane line, I can teach anyone to play golf"
THE SECRET OF GOLF IS NOT A POSITION - IT’S A PRESSURE!

Centered Pivot - STEADY HEAD ALWAYS CENTERED Between The Feet
CLUB ALWAYS ON PLANE
The FLAT LEFT WRIST controls the CLUB-FACE
The RIGHT SHOULDER is the LIASON between the
POWER PACKAGE and the PIVOT

SET UP
♦ Take grip at low point with left wrist vertical.
♦ Level Left Wrist at address and right forearm on plane with all clubs
♦ Set up with left foot outside left shoulder – Lee Trevino Step – Helps
get weight moving left on downstroke – Get the core moving level over
a flat – stable left foot. – GEORGE KNUDSON
♦ Feel bend in knees
♦ Knuckles line up underneath shaft
♦ Flare out the both feet.
♦ Don’t get ball too far back in stance
♦ Aim Left, Swing Right, Walk Down the Middle – LEE TREVINO

ACCUMULATION – LOADING - STORAGE
♦ Shoulders turning too flat. “FEEL” Rotated Shoulder Turn on backstroke.
♦ Right Forearm needs to fan more right away at startup to get the club on
plane. Work on Swing Plane, one end always pointed at target line.
♦ Feel load & lag pressure in hands
♦ Float Loading - Right wrist angle increases on downswing

DELIVERY
♦ Release #4 and #1 earlier and faster with the goal of getting hands to
aiming point. Not releasing accumulators #4 and #1 creates too much
axis tilt, and the right hip gets in the way of the delivery of the hands.
♦ Get left knee in front of left foot at start of down stroke. HULA – HULA
♦ Deliver lag pressure to impact & beyond with flat left/bent right wrists
♦ The left knee must move in front of the left hip on the down stroke. The
left hip must move in front of the left shoulder.

RELEASE
♦ Get back to the Elbow Plane to make better use of PA #3
♦ Need more Extensor Action at Impact and Follow Through. Left arm
breaks down right after impact due to lack of EA. This also helps get the
club back on plane with finish swivel.
♦ Keep steady head centered. When the head moves forward, the body
stops…
♦ Arms need to stay closer to body after impact and re-hinge.
♦ Your body can’t rotate if your head doesn’t. Rotate the head towards the
target on the down-stroke. Hogan - Annika
♦ Keep the right hip and right shoulder moving through the ball

FINISH
♦ My “Palm Springs” feeling of rotating the chest helps extend the spine!
♦ My hands need to be educated to go back up the plane at follow through
to finish.
♦ It's the right arm that takes the club to finish back up plane.
♦ Finish swivel – Feel like the left wrist never bends!
♦ Annika Eyes
♦ RELEASE THE FORWARD TILT OF THE HIPS

Information I would not give to my pupils
 

When I start to Trace a Plane Line that is too Inside Out, this is usually my problem. My eye line looks just like MM is trying to get you to do. My right ear ends up closer to my right shoulder than my left ear is to my left shoulder. Your eyes can fool you. Two wrongs can make a right, but there are better ways to fix the OTT.

My bold.
I am all ears.(eyes)

Hi Air,

Please note these are just random notes of some things I am fooling with as swing thoughts, not meant to be a blueprint for anybody. I just don't want my random notes/thoughts to confuse or goof anybody up... Also, nothing I have is original. All taken from posters here and other sites. :)

Thanks,
Kevin

LOL

Drew, I have the same issue as you, getting too far inside and my shoulders are way under plane. Doing the opposite of Mr. Malaska's drill for me, getting my Eye Line on my baseline, instead of pointed right, seems to really help me...

Feel from mechanics. I would teach the student where we ultimately want his eyeline, parallel to the baseline, and perhaps he needs to feel exaggerated to get there...

Does that make any sense?

Kevin

It may not be original, but it's good enough for me (and probably some others as well) to take a look at - or even comment...? :happy3:

Seeing is Believing
 

Air,

I am flying blind here. Not knowing your unique situation and the root causes without seeing your motion, I will make some general comments regarding Zone One. Your issues may not be in Zone One, but I’ll take that chance.

After you Start Down with a Slide with a Delayed Turn to create some Axis Tilt, incorporate the following… I have been using this drill with my students for quite sometime with great success.

Originally Posted by kmmcnabb
"You take your stance at the with your driver. Then take the driver and place it across your shoulders with the grip toward the target flush with your left shoulder and the head out the back (about two feet sticking out the back). Then you backswing to the top and on the downswing, try to hit the ball with the head of the driver (which you can't of course). This will give you immediate feel of getting the right shoulder down on plane. If you have not been doing this then it will feel quite different.

This single drill got me to focus on my right shoulder and I can now feel immediately when I am not down on plane with my right shoulder. I took film after this drill and the difference is quite startling."

Thanks. Absolutely worth a try.
In case you want to give any more advice - here's my swing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs8CyvHblMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrI3S8xHluA

Coming to Grips
 

Do you have any flexibility or health issues?
Do you have a close up of your grip?
Describe your ball flight?
What do you best shots look like?
What is your favorite and least favorite club in your bag?
Do you practice Impact Fix?
Work on the Zone One Drill in a mirror before we move on. Don't worry if it feels "different". That is a good thing.
There are other issues that need to be addressed based on your answers to the questions above.

The Eyes have it!
 

Makes sense to me Kevin. Precision In, Precision Out.

0. No
1. No, but I'm now using a pretty strong grip (3 knuckles)
2. Fade/slice or pull.
3. Straight / a little fade. On the high side.
4. Best 8-6 irons. Worst: driver on my bad shots
5. Yes - even used it, but after trying swinging instead of hitting I'm using adjusted address.
6. ok

I got Rhythm, I got Music, I got a Flat Left who could ask for anything more?
 

We also have some Horizontal Bending of the Left Wrist through Impact. Uncocking of the Left Wrist is a Clubhead Motion. The Hands execute the Clubface Motion. In your case, the Wrist Motion is throwing the clubface at the ball, resulting in Steering and Clubhead Throwaway. Steering gets its work done with it partner in crime Quitting. We will have to learn to swing the Hands not the clubhead. Do you have a copy of the TGM?
Reference 2-P and 4-D-0, 4-D-1.
Watch Ted Fort in action during the first half of the video...
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...-Barclays.html
Lynn also did two recent videos that you will find helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcprJ...ayer_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/user/lynnblak.../0/JlR13r9-EXc

Thank you very much. A lot of useful information to look into, including the (darn) book.

They cal it Mellow Yellow
 

Yes, the darn book. Think of it as your Field Guide.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Field Guide". (manual?)

The importance of working out.
 

No Crane, No gain
 

Glad to see he has increased the pace of his workout.

Jason Day too
 

Driver - twice.
09-18-2010, 05:51 PM A couple of weeks ago on the 18. hole (360y) at my home course. I hit a very bad tee shot with the driver - very high and short to the right into some trees. I took a short cut with my driver still in my hand to look for the ball. It had jumped off the tree into the rough, so I was able to continue to play from there. The tee shot was only 80 yards. Since my bag was about 50 yards away I decided to use my driver once more and hit a rabbit killer that advanced about 150 y . About 150 yards left. I then had a very good 3.shot to the green - with only 15 feet left to the hole and I managed to make it. It was the first time I had ever made par using the driver on the 2 first shots.....
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Today Jason Day did exactly what I have described here in the Hyundai Tournament of Champions on hole 13.

E-Manual
 

Exactly! Fits nicely in your golf bag.

Harry Rough
 

There is a difficult, IMO, quote out there by Clint " Dirty Harry" Eastwood , "a mans got to know his limitations". I think it works in the short-term, but not in the long-term.
Tommy Armour would agree, but then again he probably had money riding on the bet.

I wasn't so surprised to see Jason Day make par.(I surprised myself more). Jason chunked his drive and hit it only 106 y. That was the big surprise - and he had almost 300 y left to the green and then he went for it and hit the driver off the deck but missed the green into a bunker 50 yards from the green. But he got up and down. It brought back some nice memories - and Jason seemed happy as well.

I feel a little lost again.

I'm stuck between trying to hold on to on to what I have learned about alignments and what to do with them and how to develope this even more.

After a week with the flu I haven't done much training. I feel better now and since we have had some milder weather (32F), I went out on the veranda and dug away 2 feet with snow and found my green hitting math and made some swings. But it was too slippery. I have saltet the math and will try later to see if that helps.

I can't find the big inspiration in the basic motion or the brush - brush technique. Now I am wondering if it's better to train on the delivery path - to force it into a more in-to-out swing path - preferably combinded with lag and hinging training, but ... I don't really know what to do ...

:confused1

What a Drag
 

Start Down with a Slide of your Hips with a DELAYED Turn and create some Axis Tilt so you can get your Right Shoulder moving down Plane (all of this around a Stationary Head). Learn to swing the Hands not the Clubhead. Drag the butt of the club toward the base of your Plane Line and feel the Uncocking and Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist.

Thanks. I'll certainly give that a try (or 50 trys).

BTW: How does one best learn how to swing the hands ( the clamps ) - not the clubhead, since I'm still having problems with this..

Fit to be Tried
 

50 is not enough. Remember you are trying to develop new habits.

This is an old post I made a few years back...

Your hands will communicate all that is going on. The problem is most golfers are not listening. When Mr. Kelley wrote the current Chapter 5 (first appeared in the 4th edition I believe) it summarized the book in "a nut-shell" . SWING THE HANDS, MONITOR THE HANDS, Mr. Kelley wrote in capital letter. Nine times out of ten, your swing falls apart because you are not monitoring your hands, you are monitoring the Clubface. What they are telling you falls on deaf ears.

You are Over-loading (we'll save this one for another time), Round-housing, off Plane...The hands will communicate all of this if you will only pay attention. They, pressure points 1,2,3 located in the hands, are always trying to communicate, along with their distant cousin, the #4 Pressure Point. That is where your precision is if you use them; recognizing and reconcilling minor differences. The first step is to listen even if you don't speak the language yet.

Thanks again. You are a great help. Ok - not 50 times, but 500 times.

Air Reps
 

Not 500. More like 1500.

That's ok - I'll not let that discourage me. :eyes:

To be on the safe side - the delayed turn (=rotation?) you mention - it's still the hips you are talking about?

This is some good stuff here guys. I gotta get a lesson from Drew sometime. Next time I'm in the Center of Mass.

Maybe you should get a Taly, Air? It seems to address the flat left wrist and rhythm very well.

I have a Taly - a gift from Yoda. Must use it more. Thanks for the reminder.