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Bagger Lance 10-20-2005 04:22 PM
Mizuno,

No problem. Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your contributions.

The question was asked to DG.

I have my opinions as well. They are rooted in 10-3-K and 7-3.
As for Tom, there's some very good stuff in his teaching and also some communications issues. We can take those up in the Tomasello thread.

Thanks,

Bagger

birdie_man 10-26-2005 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tongzilla
The lesson is this:

Follow, learn and understand the Basic Patterns of Hitting and Swinging in 12-1 and 12-2 before customising your own variations. That applies even if you think you know a lot about TGM. Only until you really know what you're doing and you really understand the jigsaw, then start customising. Even then, be very careful of what you're doing. Otherwise, you are much much better off following Homer's Pattern. Afterall, he's spent 28 years looking for it.
Just was reading this thread....

Wanted to point out that great post....it's true....it's true.

Save yourself the grief.....customize after.

Delaware Golf 10-27-2005 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
It's a faulty left arm swing by default, because it isn't a right arm swing nor a hitting procedure. There is no initial shoulder thrust, but rather the right hand is moving the left arm. The hands are overaccelerating causing #4 accumulator throwaway and there is wristcock throwaway.
Hmmmm...during the Tomasello video...did anybody see Tomasello demonstrate while hitting balls the actions described above...I surely didn't!!! Actually, totally the opposite!!!

DG

Delaware Golf 10-27-2005 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
DG,

Now that the video is up and we've had a chance to review it, Lynn posted that it is a left arm swing with the "magic of the right forearm". Do you agree?

Right Arm Swing....period!!!

Right Arm Takeaway
Right Arm Trigger
Extensor Action/Sweep Release

The stroke follows section 12-13-0 like Homer had this stroke procedure in mind!!!

I truly don't believe Homer had a problem with Right Arm Swinging...

I can't wait for next years golf season!!!

DG

Yoda 10-27-2005 12:27 AM
Back At Ya
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf

The stroke follows section 12-13-0 like Homer had this stroke procedure in mind!!!

I truly don't believe Homer had a problem with Right Arm Swinging...

I can't wait for next years golf season!!!
Three statements, three responses:

1. There is no 12-13-0. If you mean 12-3-0, that Mechanical Checklist applies to all Stroke Patterns -- even 'X' Patterns -- not just Right Arm Swing.

2. Homer thought the Right Arm Swing was a "beautiful" procedure (but be careful with the elbow ligaments).

3. Neither can I!

Delaware Golf 10-27-2005 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda
Three statements, three responses:

1. There is no 12-13-0. If you mean 12-3-0, that Mechanical Checklist applies to all Stroke Patterns -- even 'X' Patterns -- not just Right Arm Swing.

2. Homer thought the Right Arm Swing was a "beautiful" procedure (but be careful with the elbow ligaments).

3. Neither can I!
Yoda,

Thanks for the correction...yes, I meant 12-3-0. And I don't have a problem with the other stroke patterns, please don't take it that way...I recommend keeping an open mind and trying them all.

Cheers to the 2006 season...I predict TGM and the LBG website will produce great things. Stay tuned...

DG

birdie_man 10-27-2005 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
It's a faulty left arm swing by default, because it isn't a right arm swing nor a hitting procedure. There is no initial shoulder thrust, but rather the right hand is moving the left arm. The hands are overaccelerating causing #4 accumulator throwaway and there is wristcock throwaway.
I can see where he's coming from.....I have tested it, and personally wnat nothing to do with my right arm pulling or swinging anything (mostly in the Start Down, I mean).....I like to feel the pull from the left side in Start Down, and use a STT (for most shots.....currently testing a slight variation- possibly using RFT- for wedges).

It feels more "anchored" and, for me, works much better.

Having said that though- you seem to be having some good results with what you're doing DG..... :)

palmreader 10-27-2005 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda
Search For The Perfect Swing was published in 1968, the year before the 1969 publication of The Golfing Machine. No second edition was ever published -- Homer Kelley said it was because of fundamental errors that could not be resolved by the two authors (Cochran and Stobbs) or the various researchers involved. Interest in the book was revived in the mid-80s, and there have since been five printings, the first in 1986 and the last in 1999.

Yoda,

Cochran and Stobbs came out with an updated verion in 2005. In fact, you can buy it Walmart online for $16

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3341304

Delaware Golf 10-27-2005 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by birdie_man
I can see where he's coming from.....I have tested it, and personally wnat nothing to do with my right arm pulling or swinging anything (mostly in the Start Down, I mean).....I like to feel the pull from the left side in Start Down, and use a STT (for most shots.....currently testing a slight variation- possibly using RFT- for wedges).

It feels more "anchored" and, for me, works much better.

Having said that though- you seem to be having some good results with what you're doing DG..... :)
birdie_man,

It takes a major committment to change over to using a right arm swing...anywhere from 3 to 6 months of practice and play to see consistent desired results...it really works...I won the last tournament I entered using it.

DG

JohnThomas1 10-31-2005 03:56 AM
That's awesome DG. What handicap drop did you notice over the 6 or so months? I know Tommy said this swing can have immediate impact on your results as well. I've won a couple of tounaments, but to be honest they were rather small. Still made me beam tho ;)


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