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mb6606 01-01-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 80753)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwxI5...eature=related

A lot of good stuff (i think/hope).

Jeff Mann agrees:
http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/questions.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ODdv5pmib4

I think that Annika Sorenstam has a perfect golf swing.

Features that I like about her golf swing include the following-:

1) She uses a natural rightwards-centralised pivot action where she doesn't sway to-and-fro, or bob up-and-down. She also doesn't try to keep her USC stationary throughout the backswing, and therefore she doesn't need to use an assertive "butt tuck-under-the-spine" pelvic thrust motion in the downswing.

2) Her downswing/followthrough pelvic motion is rotary, and it is perfectly time-coordinated with her upper torso rotation.

3) She immediately comes-up post-impact and there is no reverse C posturing in her followthrough/finish.

4) Her knee action is very limited - her knees only move in order to allow the pelvis to rotate. There is no knee over-flexing in the early downswing or knee over-bending into impact.

5) She has a compact backswing and never over-swings.

6) Her LAFW is intact throughout her backswing, downswing and followthrough.

7) Her RFFM has a perfect relationship to her LAFW throughout the backswing/downswing.

8. There is no hand crossover release action in her swing.

9) Her rhythm is impeccable. Her arms rotate at the same rpm as her body. She looks like a human pendulum that has no extraneous moving parts.

looks like restricted flying wedges to me (with the ball between the arms) = reduced power.

airair 01-01-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 80762)
looks like restricted flying wedges to me (with the ball between the arms) = reduced power.

Sure - nobody hits their normal shots in this way. But it's very compact and rhythmical.

BerntR 01-01-2011 11:44 PM

Annika's swing looks incredibly simple.

Something that works so well and looks so simple is certainly worth studying.

david sandridge 01-02-2011 06:04 AM

Anika is long. It is humbling to watch that swing hit the ball longer than I do on my course. I walked over twelve holes with her and watched her on the range several years ago and was amazed hour far she hit it with so little effort. There ought to be a sybervision video of her swing Guess we could make one.

I guess she holds that ball between her arms with extensor action and not by inward pressure like the Hogan banded arms!

Oh she is really cute and quite nice. I miss her

david sandridge 01-02-2011 06:23 AM

Golly got to say more. The swing analysis by deFrancesco was filmed in Asheville NC Cliffs at Walnut Cove. 2 or 3 years ago and I was there!. I just realized it.
She was really on that day. Walnut Cove was used on the BMW Nationwide tour until recently. It had the highest stroke average of any course on that tour that year. The players hated it. It is a Nicklaus course. I walked with Jack when he opened it and I heard him say it was too hard. I walked with Gary Player when he played it and he also said it was too hard. Also Bruce Fleischer is of the same opinion. Annika's tee shot on No 3 is a vivid memory even now. It is an uphill Par 4 well bunkered off the tee. Annika playing from the men's tees easily flew it over the middle fairway bunker. It requires about 235 or 240 carry up hill. I don't remember her score but her ball striking was awesome.
She is indeed very cute and nice and I do miss her.

Yoda 01-02-2011 08:48 AM

With Anika
 
. . . at the 2010 U.S. Open at Pebble Beach.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lynnblak...82529021459602

airair 01-02-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80779)
. . . at the 2010 U.S. Open at Pebble Beach.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lynnblak...82529021459602

nice. .....

mb6606 01-02-2011 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80773)
Annika's swing looks incredibly simple.

Something that works so well and looks so simple is certainly worth studying.

I like this little guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGEDYpGQ_3I

airair 01-02-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 80790)
I like this little guy.
[url]http:/

He belongs up there. + this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri23pV64JG0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frmw98XU0h4&NR=1

Daryl 01-02-2011 02:44 PM

Both are sooo great.

airair 01-02-2011 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david sandridge (Post 80776)
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She is indeed very cute and nice and I do miss her.

I agree. And very little primadonna like.

airair 01-02-2011 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80793)
Both are sooo great.

Indeed.
Let's not forget this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duDQc...1&feature=fvwp

airair 01-03-2011 06:48 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVW8DBHWXv8

BerntR 01-03-2011 12:44 PM

Impact alignments
 
Step through the frames through impact and inhale!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxGeY...eature=related

You will not find many players that get close to Justin's impact alignments. I have a feeling that this is what HK wanted us to achieve through impact.

airair 01-03-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80887)
Stop the film at 0:27 and inhale!

And then what? When is it time to exhale?

BerntR 01-03-2011 01:11 PM

It's time to exhale when Dustin's left wrist starts to break down. It happens a lot later in Dustin's stroke than most others.

Luke Donald and Ousthuysen (did I get that right?) have both nice looking strokes but both have a little flip tendency through impact. Dustin's rock solid wedges through the ball may be out of reach for most of us but it is quite ideal IMO.

airair 01-03-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80891)
It's time to exhale when Dustin's left wrist starts to break down. It happens a lot later in Dustin's stroke than most others.

Luke Donald and Ousthuysen (did I get that right?) have both nice looking strokes but both have a little flip tendency through impact. Dustin's rock solid wedges through the ball may be out of reach for most of us but it is quite ideal IMO.

Is that why he hits longer than most? Or is he just stronger or more talented?

BerntR 01-03-2011 01:26 PM

I think his distance has a lot to do with being big, strong and fast.

But most golfers will gain distance if they can avoid any left wrist break down tendencies before the ball is gone.

BerntR 01-03-2011 01:28 PM

Annika also has great impact alignments.

tim chapman 01-03-2011 01:29 PM

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have both nice  looking strokes but both have a little flip tendency through impact.
yes that's very clear on Donald now you point it out - interesting

airair 01-03-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80893)
I think his distance has a lot to do with being big, strong and fast.

But most golfers will gain distance if they can avoid any left wrist break down tendencies before the ball is gone.

That is (one of 3 ) imperative(s).

BerntR 01-03-2011 01:46 PM

I think Dustin has all three of them through impact. In spades!

airair 01-03-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80898)
I think Dustin has all three of them through impact. In spades!

Good for him - and for us, who can find inspiration in these alignments and how they are performed - in good players like DJ.

airair 01-03-2011 03:54 PM

Martin Hall
 
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/tour-i...n-show-40877/m

Etzwane 01-03-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80894)
Annika also has great impact alignments.

Another compilation of Annika swing

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m...am-mar09_sport

The alignments on the swing at 2:30 look pretty interesting.

airair 01-03-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etzwane (Post 80927)
Another compilation of Annika swing

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m...am-mar09_sport

The alignments on the swing at 2:30 look pretty interesting.

Explain please.

airair 01-04-2011 08:30 AM

Impressive
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgF_9IfROAU

BerntR 01-04-2011 08:37 AM

This really shows how effective you can generate speed by pulling with the Right Shoulder.

airair 01-04-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 80969)
This really shows how effective you can generate speed by pulling with the Right Shoulder.

Did you say you are a lefty? That makes it easier to watch? But I guess you translated it into a right handed swing? I thought most of the pulling is by the left arm? But with only one arm - you don't have a choice. When I try to hit balls with a right arm only, it certainly feels like a hit - not much pulling there, I'm afraid.. :golf:

BerntR 01-04-2011 09:58 AM

I didn't realise that we were looking at a lefty here. I meant Left Shoulder (for a righty)!

Etzwane 01-04-2011 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 80929)
Explain please.

I noticed how in the backswing she seems to pull an pick up the club with the right side and how the right forearm supports the club. It's not TGM perfect, her right wrist seems to be uncocked and then the grip does not support the club as much as it could at End, but there is more structure than I expected.

airair 01-05-2011 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etzwane (Post 80980)
I noticed how in the backswing she seems to pull an pick up the club with the right side and how the right forearm supports the club. It's not TGM perfect, her right wrist seems to be uncocked and then the grip does not support the club as much as it could at End, but there is more structure than I expected.

I'm not sure what to make of this. Do you think Annika has a hands controlled pivot or pivot controlled hands?

airair 01-05-2011 08:35 AM

start up
 
Is this right? (for a swinger):

1. Adjusted address

2. Right forearm takeaway.
- a fanning motion
- bending of the RW
- flattening and cocking of of the LW
- no cocking of the RW
- start up swivel (rotation/turning of the left (and right) forearm
- extensor action
- drag the wet mop as part of the takeaway combined with everything else here mentioned.

3. Downswing.
- undo the swivel action the opposite way.
- keep the flying wedges and there relationship intact while keeping the left arm straight and straightening the right arm (almost straight).
- uncocking of the LW
- delivery path inside to out
- sustain the lag
- extensor action

4.Impact
- FLW
- BRW
- extensor action
- choose one of 3 hinge actions. (mostly a horizontal hinging for the full shots for a swinger).
- the right arm straightens out completely in the followthru. (both arms straight).

Have I left out anything(or got it wrong)?

probably Acumulators and Pressure Points, Power Package - but all this is hopefully taken care of in the above mentioned?

Daryl 01-05-2011 10:00 AM

Why not follow 12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES?

airair 01-05-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80999)
Why not follow 12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES?

I'm not using the book, but my own impressions, but I see your point.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../1/VAVVzZ55lW0

Etzwane 01-05-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airair (Post 80996)
I'm not sure what to make of this. Do you think Annika has a hands controlled pivot or pivot controlled hands?

I'm afraid my knowledge of TGM is too limited to figure out a meaningful answer...

airair 01-05-2011 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etzwane (Post 81016)
I'm afraid my knowledge of TGM is too limited to figure out a meaningful answer...

Same here.

Daryl 01-05-2011 02:04 PM

For what it's worth, I think she uses Hands Controlled Pivot. I've seen her swing using more and sometimes less Pivot motion and I think that her Pivot is responding to the Alignments of Her Hands and not the other way around.

airair 01-05-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 81021)
For what it's worth, I think she uses Hands Controlled Pivot. I've seen her swing using more and sometimes less Pivot motion and I think that her Pivot is responding to the Alignments of Her Hands and not the other way around.

Thanks....

airair 01-06-2011 04:33 PM

Nice development
 
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